Das Beast update: Suspension Problems
11-02-2007, 10:28 AM
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Das Beast update: Suspension Problems
So they got my car on Autospeed's new dyno after setting it up and testing it against some stock cars, with the Mustang rep there, and then proceeded to load my car on for initial runs on 93 octane.
They weren't able to get any good runs b/c they kept losing traction, mainly it seems b/c of front end lift, and partly rear end squat. The graphs (which I don't have here) are all wavy and the boost spikes up and down as the car loses traction.
It's shown about 540 whp on 93, but it's only running about 24lbs of boost (it should see about 28 lbs).
They're going to load it back on the dyno backwards this afternoon which allows them to strap the front down harder to retain traction (b/c of the physical config of the dyno).
Apparently the Mustang dyno rep was laughing a bit before Das Beast was loaded on as Mark was telling him that there may be traction problems. Rep said he's never seen this happen before.
All said:
(1) I find this rewardingly funny.
(2) I've got a problem. I am going to fit wider 285 width tires, but I'll have to get different wheels to do it. I can get a set of 18x10 BBS from Champion's RS6 race car, but still need 20mm spacers, or I have to have something custom made with a zero offset. The BBS are lightweight magnesium 'for track use only'. Why track use only? Are they 'tender', or do they corrode easily in salt? I do not know...
(3) I want to retain the adjustable suspension for snow travel, boat trailering, and offroad use. <b>Does anyone have any ideas for how to do this, but stiffen the shocks, or even reduce the 'front lift/rear squat' effects?</b>
Does the Q7, Toureg or Cayenne have an adjustable suspension option that might be 'heavier duty' that might work?
Hopefully I'll have dyno charts later today with good runs once they're able to get the animal strapped down tight.
Makes me think of some mutant retard-strong Frankenstein strapped to the gurney, tearing and stretching the restaining straps while the docotor is trying to operate. This thing can't be contained! Too funny...
Here, Porsche Porsche Porsche :-)
(BBS wheels option)
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/SESchutt/allroad/ses-allroadBBS.jpg">
They weren't able to get any good runs b/c they kept losing traction, mainly it seems b/c of front end lift, and partly rear end squat. The graphs (which I don't have here) are all wavy and the boost spikes up and down as the car loses traction.
It's shown about 540 whp on 93, but it's only running about 24lbs of boost (it should see about 28 lbs).
They're going to load it back on the dyno backwards this afternoon which allows them to strap the front down harder to retain traction (b/c of the physical config of the dyno).
Apparently the Mustang dyno rep was laughing a bit before Das Beast was loaded on as Mark was telling him that there may be traction problems. Rep said he's never seen this happen before.
All said:
(1) I find this rewardingly funny.
(2) I've got a problem. I am going to fit wider 285 width tires, but I'll have to get different wheels to do it. I can get a set of 18x10 BBS from Champion's RS6 race car, but still need 20mm spacers, or I have to have something custom made with a zero offset. The BBS are lightweight magnesium 'for track use only'. Why track use only? Are they 'tender', or do they corrode easily in salt? I do not know...
(3) I want to retain the adjustable suspension for snow travel, boat trailering, and offroad use. <b>Does anyone have any ideas for how to do this, but stiffen the shocks, or even reduce the 'front lift/rear squat' effects?</b>
Does the Q7, Toureg or Cayenne have an adjustable suspension option that might be 'heavier duty' that might work?
Hopefully I'll have dyno charts later today with good runs once they're able to get the animal strapped down tight.
Makes me think of some mutant retard-strong Frankenstein strapped to the gurney, tearing and stretching the restaining straps while the docotor is trying to operate. This thing can't be contained! Too funny...
Here, Porsche Porsche Porsche :-)
(BBS wheels option)
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/SESchutt/allroad/ses-allroadBBS.jpg">
11-02-2007, 10:57 AM
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IMveryHO the wheels need to be sturdier looking for this type of beast...these look frilly to me....
even the new RS8 type are more metal looking than these...personal favs are still the RS6....what all best dressed allroads should be wearing
Amazing info on the car.
Amazing info on the car.
11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
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I don't love them, but light = good, and those are a scant 17lbs each - which is phenomenal. But...
I'd rather have some form of OEM Audi wheel, but I've yet to come up with anything aftermarket or otherwise that I really like. Weight is a factor though...
11-02-2007, 11:31 AM
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very impressive. BBS MAG wheels...
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/5987/100_0691.jpg"></center><p>I had a set that I got from Champion back in the day and they are very easy to bend. SUPER light at only 14 lbs I think it was for 18x9.5 (they are not 18x10) with offset of ET20. They would be very very very nice on your allroad but I honestly don't know if they will be strong enough for you all year on such a heavy car. Just my experience. If I were you, I would get them anyway and run them in just the summer with the 285 tires.For winter,get another set that is stronger with some 265 winter tires.
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11-02-2007, 12:37 PM
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Further research indicates they melt in salt water, bend easily, so I'm skipping them...
Since I'll use the car to launch my boat, drive to ski hills and so on and so forth, it seems they are about the worst possible choice - salt and potholes are not friendly to Magnesium.
So I'll keep looking...
So I'll keep looking...
