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    ** how to fix *** a broken seat heater ElEMENT *************
    Posted by: 5000CDQturbo on 2003-11-11 13:05:51
    Account #: 62578

    In Reply to: Seat heater question posted by GaryF on 2003-11-11 05:15:07

    hmm I should be working, but here is how you do it ...sorry for any spelling mistakes, grammer ... but u will get the idea.....................

    tools needed
    -soldering iron / solider
    -exacto knife and small scissors
    - needle nose and reg pliers
    - phillips screw driver and a slot
    - meter for continuity test.
    - electrical tape

    General info
    the seat has to be moved first to the rear most position to get at the front bolts. Don't forget to at this time to unplug the heated seat plug..shoud be attached to the base of the seat.( this is where you do your testing from ) and also the seat motors plug. The seats are bolted to the floor on the front by two bolts .. the rear legs are on rails.
    Now after the bolts are out move the seats forward by hand to expose the two rear rail stoppers. The rear stopper that runs along the middle of the drive tunnel is long .(unscrew using a Phillips s driver ) Slid seat out of rail ...be careful not to lose the white or black rail inserts that are attached to the seat feet, sometimes they fall off .... they stop rattling and help movement along the rail.
    Once test are complete ( test can be done in the car, but repair is best done outside of car )
    Heater 1 seat, bum
    Heater 2 back

    Testing plug Heater 1 Seat and Heater 2 back
    Plug is found under seat
    looks like this

    ---(1) ** ---(2) --- (3)
    ---(4) ** ---(5) --- (6)

    ** space in plug between connectors

    -to check the Heater Seat 1 (bum) check continuity between 2& 6 ( yellow strip (black) & Blue strip (brown ) )
    -to check the Back heater 2 check continuity between 1&4 brown/blue & brown.
    - 5&3 is for the temp button in the seat ( temp sensor )

    Heater 1 seat ass but bum ( HOW TO TAKE SEAT APART )

    - take cover off of seat controls , up , down, sideways etc
    - pop hinge covers of L & R
    - unscrew hinge screws L&R ( you need to do this so that you can get the fabric up off the seat )
    - now go to the back of the seat ... you will notice a skid plate fabric at the bottom of the seat ( black ) this sort of connects to the fabric of your seat ( leather, gray fabric etc ) Both of these fabric are shoved into a small channel to hold the upper and lower .... pull this apart.
    - now at the L & R near the hinges .. there is a wire that runs along the base seat inside the fabric of the seat .... loosen off both sides .... looks like common bailing wire.
    - start from one side of the seat and work your way around the base. What you are looking for is clips and plugs than hold the skirt of the seat down. Be careful as there are a couple metal clips that you could miss. undo all these.
    - now pull the fabric up over the hinges , front and sides.
    -NOTE fabric is attached to small straight wire rods. These coat hanger size rods or wires go horizontally in both Longitude and latitude directions.

    this is what it looks like

    note there are two rods that hold the seat fabric to the cushion.

    top of seat
    ----------------fabric-------------------------------
    fabric is attached to rod below
    L .....................rod.............................................. Right

    L........................rod.............................................right

    the Rod above is kind of attached to the cushion
    the two rods are held together with small circular clips
    This system of little rods goes along the pleat lines of the seat.

    -Okay now start and peel the front of the seat back and you will come to your first Rod this will be held by about four circular clips. Take the pliers or needle nose and you have to twist them off.
    -Once you have finished the first lateral rod you will have to work on the longitudinal rods.
    -now that you have the fabric off the seat you will see the white pad that the little wires go though..... before you start cutting away at things look for a small brown stain ( burn marks )
    that is where the brake is usually, not always.
    -attach your meter at rear of the seat you will see two wire attach your meter to one of the wires ... that is the circuit of the heating element. Work your way up this wire until you have no beep
    ... ( using the little metal probe to genitally break the surface of the wire ) look for the break in this area ,, most of the time it is a fold where one of the rods has been.
    -Fix with a small amount of soldier . Too much solder is bad = it creates a higher resistance and thus More HEAT to that area. Trust me my wife's ass can attest to that!!!
    Now the fun part take all those nice little wire clips and straighten them out and make them round with a gap so you can get them over the rods ... the first couple are a real bitch but you will get the hang of it. Work from the back to the front.
    This job can be about a three to five hour job ( for your first seat )
    just do the revers to put the seat back together.
    To do the BACK same sort of procedure as seat.....
    any questions please get back to me at David.morralee@aaaaaaaaaaAlcatel.com take the a's out

    regards
    David

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