Car & Driver TT comparo online now...
05-02-2007, 04:44 PM
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Car & Driver TT comparo online now...
<center><img src="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/042520071754002940.jpg"></center><p>The recently discussed C&D comparo between the FWD TT 2.0T, Shelby, RX-8 & 350Z is online now.
As we already know the TT came in second. Lap times and breaking distances were also among the best.
The summery:
Highs: Feels like a luxury car, performs like a proper sports car.
Lows: Front-wheel drive and it shows, useless back seat, expensive.
The Verdict: A GTI wrapped in a sexy skin.
My verdict: More fuel to the fire to wait for the 2.0T quattro.<ul><li><a href="http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/12896/2007-ford-mustang-shelby-gt-v-2007-mazda-rx-8-v-2007-nissan-350z-v-2008-audi-tt-20t.html">Click!</a></li></ul>
As we already know the TT came in second. Lap times and breaking distances were also among the best.
The summery:
Highs: Feels like a luxury car, performs like a proper sports car.
Lows: Front-wheel drive and it shows, useless back seat, expensive.
The Verdict: A GTI wrapped in a sexy skin.
My verdict: More fuel to the fire to wait for the 2.0T quattro.<ul><li><a href="http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/12896/2007-ford-mustang-shelby-gt-v-2007-mazda-rx-8-v-2007-nissan-350z-v-2008-audi-tt-20t.html">Click!</a></li></ul>
05-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: Car & Driver TT comparo online now...
As I said below, this article was not the most flattering that we have seen but IMO I think it was realistic. Some of the negative excerpts:
"Even with the aluminum weight saving focused at the front of the car, 60.8 percent of the Audi's heft hangs over the front wheels, a setup that results in understeer when entering a corner and the front wheels fighting for grip on the exit.
On rough roads, the TT exhibits a worrying amount of creaks and rattles, and it isn't quite as composed as the Mazda or Nissan. And it's expensive: Our test car was optioned with upgraded wheels and tires and the Premium package, which includes power heated seats and a leather steering wheel. Add in magnetic ride-control shocks or navigation, and the TT's price creeps over 40 large. That's a lot of money when an A3 or GTI will perform at almost the same level for less money and with more interior space."
BTW, just so I put my cards on the table, I am PO'd at Audi as I think they blew it with the Mk2 relative to what they could have done. That being said, if they upgrade the engine/drivetrain combo with something interesting in place of the 3.2 retread or fwd car, I can see myself driving one at some point...but after the initial lustre wears off as these cars are going to be discounted sooner and more than the Mk1's were as 2007/2008 is a different market than 2001. I realize that it may be in my dreams for a better engine choice and quattro in my lifetime.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/tt2/msgs/5807.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/tt2/msgs/5807.phtml</a</li></ul>
"Even with the aluminum weight saving focused at the front of the car, 60.8 percent of the Audi's heft hangs over the front wheels, a setup that results in understeer when entering a corner and the front wheels fighting for grip on the exit.
On rough roads, the TT exhibits a worrying amount of creaks and rattles, and it isn't quite as composed as the Mazda or Nissan. And it's expensive: Our test car was optioned with upgraded wheels and tires and the Premium package, which includes power heated seats and a leather steering wheel. Add in magnetic ride-control shocks or navigation, and the TT's price creeps over 40 large. That's a lot of money when an A3 or GTI will perform at almost the same level for less money and with more interior space."
BTW, just so I put my cards on the table, I am PO'd at Audi as I think they blew it with the Mk2 relative to what they could have done. That being said, if they upgrade the engine/drivetrain combo with something interesting in place of the 3.2 retread or fwd car, I can see myself driving one at some point...but after the initial lustre wears off as these cars are going to be discounted sooner and more than the Mk1's were as 2007/2008 is a different market than 2001. I realize that it may be in my dreams for a better engine choice and quattro in my lifetime.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/tt2/msgs/5807.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/tt2/msgs/5807.phtml</a</li></ul>
05-03-2007, 05:20 AM
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Keep hope alive, man...
I just hope that I haven't already pulled the trigger on a Cayman or Z4 Coupe when Audi finally realizes that they didn't lead out strong enough w/ the new TT.
Come on, Audi, give us something special! The same engine choices as the GTI and A3? At least here in the US the 225 hp 1.8T was unique to the TT.
*sigh*
Come on, Audi, give us something special! The same engine choices as the GTI and A3? At least here in the US the 225 hp 1.8T was unique to the TT.
*sigh*
05-03-2007, 11:51 AM
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Very "for real". Having driven both, they feel quite similiar...
I'd say from a driving perspective they are within about an inch of each other, and if you throw in the fact that you can row your own gears in the GTI, it's actually more fun.
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05-03-2007, 01:08 PM
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Its FWD ... a Quattro 2.0T would be a different beast altogether >>>
so I do agree with the C&D review.
That being said, its commendable that it beat out a 350Z in FWD mode.
That being said, its commendable that it beat out a 350Z in FWD mode.