So who runs staggered wheels & tires here...?
#1
AudiWorld Senior Member
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So who runs staggered wheels & tires here...?
Seriously considering going with a staggered setup for this coming summer season. I know that we need to run the same rolling diameters so I have taken that into account when selecting wheel/tire sizes and have a few options I figured out below.
Things I'd like to have in my setup:
1. Decent sized sidewalls (nothing over 40 though) due to ruff NY roads. I don't plan on driving my car anywhere near the city but I would NEVER run a 25mm profile that's retarted. 30 & 35 I will consider as options.
2. 17" & narrow front tires. I hate how my car handles with 18" wheels but love how it looks in the back. Figure I can get a raked effect and maintain good turn-in as well.
3. 9/10" rear wheels essential with 255/275 rear tires. Just for look. Guess this will give addded grip.
I know there's an understeer/oversteer chart and I'm changing A LOT here so there would be many factors. This is all just a though (and the way I'd like my car to look as well) we will see what actually happens of course. - My assumptions are that adding a wider and taller rear tire will give me added grip in the rear and running a narrower front tire will give me the sharp handling I want.
I know our cars are predominantly FWD so staggering tires could be the worst possible idea as well... I have driven staggered FWD cars and it has always been a miserable experience. I was planning on purchasing a haldex orange controller before I even do the setup (next on my list actually, finally) - Not sure if this will make a difference in the handling of a staggered setup...
Options are:
OKAY with AWD I need to run equal rolling diameters (rolling radiusx2, right?) on all four corners so here are my choices... this is going to look ****ing sick from behind...
option 1: 6mm off
Front: 225/35/17 tire on a 17x7.5 wheel
Rear: 275/25/18 tire on a 18x10 wheel
option 2: 8mm off
Front: 215/40/17 tire on a 17x7 wheel
Rear: 275/25/18
option 3: 3mm off
Front: 215/45/17 (might be too much sidewall to achive optimal handling)
Rear:275/30/18
option 4: 4mm off
Front: 235/40/17 (more front grip, 17x8 wheel)
Rear: 275/30/18
Option 4 seems to be my best bet. 4mm off & sidewalls that are somewhat acceptable. Running 235 front tires will be nice too.
So who around here run's staggered setups? Either in size or ET please chime in! Photos are DEFINITELY appreciated!
Thanks : )
Things I'd like to have in my setup:
1. Decent sized sidewalls (nothing over 40 though) due to ruff NY roads. I don't plan on driving my car anywhere near the city but I would NEVER run a 25mm profile that's retarted. 30 & 35 I will consider as options.
2. 17" & narrow front tires. I hate how my car handles with 18" wheels but love how it looks in the back. Figure I can get a raked effect and maintain good turn-in as well.
3. 9/10" rear wheels essential with 255/275 rear tires. Just for look. Guess this will give addded grip.
I know there's an understeer/oversteer chart and I'm changing A LOT here so there would be many factors. This is all just a though (and the way I'd like my car to look as well) we will see what actually happens of course. - My assumptions are that adding a wider and taller rear tire will give me added grip in the rear and running a narrower front tire will give me the sharp handling I want.
I know our cars are predominantly FWD so staggering tires could be the worst possible idea as well... I have driven staggered FWD cars and it has always been a miserable experience. I was planning on purchasing a haldex orange controller before I even do the setup (next on my list actually, finally) - Not sure if this will make a difference in the handling of a staggered setup...
Options are:
OKAY with AWD I need to run equal rolling diameters (rolling radiusx2, right?) on all four corners so here are my choices... this is going to look ****ing sick from behind...
option 1: 6mm off
Front: 225/35/17 tire on a 17x7.5 wheel
Rear: 275/25/18 tire on a 18x10 wheel
option 2: 8mm off
Front: 215/40/17 tire on a 17x7 wheel
Rear: 275/25/18
option 3: 3mm off
Front: 215/45/17 (might be too much sidewall to achive optimal handling)
Rear:275/30/18
option 4: 4mm off
Front: 235/40/17 (more front grip, 17x8 wheel)
Rear: 275/30/18
Option 4 seems to be my best bet. 4mm off & sidewalls that are somewhat acceptable. Running 235 front tires will be nice too.
So who around here run's staggered setups? Either in size or ET please chime in! Photos are DEFINITELY appreciated!
Thanks : )
#4
narrow front tires + extremely front heavy car = horrible idea
doug,
if you were going to run all 17's i'd semi agree, but all that grip in the back, all the weight in the front with little surface area will ruin your handling. like, seriuosly ruin it.
wheel weights are also an issue with handling, take that into consideration as well.
finally, i would highly recommend a 8 or 8.5 inch front wheel and a rear of 9 or 10.. you can get the RH ZWs in those dimensions (17 inch all around) and they can be fitted easily.
it looks like you're going to cause more headaches than you want (and spend a CRAP load more than you need to in the process...)
K.I.S.S
Keep it Simple Stoooopid! (we engineers have that saying)
if you were going to run all 17's i'd semi agree, but all that grip in the back, all the weight in the front with little surface area will ruin your handling. like, seriuosly ruin it.
wheel weights are also an issue with handling, take that into consideration as well.
finally, i would highly recommend a 8 or 8.5 inch front wheel and a rear of 9 or 10.. you can get the RH ZWs in those dimensions (17 inch all around) and they can be fitted easily.
it looks like you're going to cause more headaches than you want (and spend a CRAP load more than you need to in the process...)
K.I.S.S
Keep it Simple Stoooopid! (we engineers have that saying)
#5
My Braids have staggered offsets, but are the same width (8").
If you're interested, they're for sale...
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#6
Staggered 18" LMs here
Porsche fitment so I'm running crazy huge adapters.
I understand the logic behind the handling dynamics but to be honest, I've never felt additional oversteer, even when pushing hard through the mountains in CO during TT West a few years back.
I understand the logic behind the handling dynamics but to be honest, I've never felt additional oversteer, even when pushing hard through the mountains in CO during TT West a few years back.
#7
Me - and they are actually for sale...... DPE S20 8.5 x19 and 9.5x19
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#8
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I wouldn't mind running a 8.5" front tire but>
I have found with all 18" wheels up front that the feeling is horrible. I always thought it was the weight, but the 18" set in my signature weighed out to 23 lbs. a wheel w/ 25.9 lbs. tires on them (ST-115 azenies).
I know our cars need a serious increase of weight in the rear and I'm almost justifying welding another 100 lbs. weight on the rear cross-member!!!
I'd really like how 18" wheels fit the rear of my car so I'd stick with the 18's all around but then I cannot get the rolling diameters anywhere close to each other. I'd love to run 18 x 8.5F/10R w/ 235/40F / 275/35R but the rolling radius is WAY off...
I know our cars need a serious increase of weight in the rear and I'm almost justifying welding another 100 lbs. weight on the rear cross-member!!!
I'd really like how 18" wheels fit the rear of my car so I'd stick with the 18's all around but then I cannot get the rolling diameters anywhere close to each other. I'd love to run 18 x 8.5F/10R w/ 235/40F / 275/35R but the rolling radius is WAY off...