Egodriver71

I'm looking at two TT's. One is a 2000 with the 5spd and the other is a 2001 with the 6spd. Both are Quattro.

The 5spd car I know so far has MTM exhaust, but I do not know if there are any other mods done to it. The 6spd is stock as far as I know.

Part of me wants a 6spd, just because it's a 6spd. But is there any advantage to having it over the 5spd? I plan on modifyiing either car with FMICs, 3" downpipes, tunes, larger turbos. Would the 5spd be lighter and a little stronger? Would it being a 180hp engine be a disadvantage?

Oh and the price difference is about $4k more for the 2001 than the 2000.

J. Patterson

Well------- Yes, a 45 hp disadvantage. Seriously, The 225 has more potiential too due to forged internals. Some feel that the 6 speed trans has been more reliable, but that may just be opinion, as I think they are very similar. Whichever you get , just be pickey and get a good one that has been cared for.

bubba j

As Patterson noted, I think the 45 hp are a much bigger factor than the extra gear. You may or may not think it's worth the money, but your fascination with the gear box is unusual.

odachimaster

take the 01' the larger turbo don't mess the 180


I am just a little mean at times........

odachimaster

take the 01' the larger turbo don't mess the 180


I am just a little mean at times........ bird not in this pic

carsluTT

i prefer the 180Q my self, as for the tranny, they are 100% the same the ratio's change. the case, bearings, and such are all the same. both can take the same abuse. i swap back and forth on my car from 5spd to 6spd from time to time as i cant make up my mind what ratio works best for me and i happen to have extra TT parts to toy around with.

if ur just giong to drive it get a 225, if ur going to build it up get a 180..... why i say this? well cuz u will replace the few parts that make the 225 better if u go for big hp no mater what and your insurance will be lower if u have a "180" on the books ahah.......

robertTT225

The 6sp has more power wich = more fun from the get go, like the other guys said before more potential and the advantage of a stronger engine due to the forged internals.

Egodriver71

Thanks for the info so far.

It sounds like if I want to build a monster, it really doesn't matter as I'd have to replace the same things on either engine.

And if I wanted to do a mild tune or leave it stock the 225hp is the better place to start.

As for the tranny, it seems that is a wash and whichever you get will handle the power.

SlapTTy

Bull.

Both engines have forged internals, in fact the 180 MAY have better built wrist pins (20mm in the 180 vs 19mm in AWP 225 motors).

Also the 180 has a higher compression ratio meaning you have the potential to get more power from the same set up.

If you are going to build it up, get the 180 and save the $4k for the project fund.

Check it out: http://audittmk1.blogspot.com/2009/0...gine-info.html

TToplessTTs

So why does the APR Stage III+ kit for the 180 engine dyno at around 340hp and 325 ft-lb and the 225 Stage III+ kit dyno at just under 400hp and 380 ft-lb?