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Old 05-14-2003, 08:17 AM
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Default track incident brings up the issue of tracking your daily driver

So do people still think about what they are doing when they take out their $20k car?
I've always been aware of the consequences but have still chosen to take the risk (luckily, with every passing mile that risk is diminishing because the car is worth much less).

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Old 05-14-2003, 12:53 PM
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Default I have thought about this a lot also

When I was down at Infineon last month a saw a S2000 hit the wall in turn 10. It was a complete loss. I know that in most cases with insurance you are not covered in any sort of timed event. This even includes autoX. As for lapping days many of the clubs call them "Driver training Days" which in some cases if you damage your car it might be covered if you are lucky. The thing that I really worry about at track days is someone that has never been on the track before trying to act like a hot shot boy racer and taking me out. I just always make sure I check out all events before I run in them. I do also worry about me causing my self to hit a wall do to driver error. Regards Adam
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Default I'm all too aware of this. Having seen many people and their cars meet

an unfortunate encounter with immovable objects on the track. I try to really be aware of myself and what I'm doing. I won't push it or let ego or competition feelings regulate my activities on the track, especially during a DE.

As I get faster, the risks are higher. I've been having not so good dreams about taking the P-Car onto the track on May 23rd, and am feverishly trying to save up enough to score a disposable car for track duty.

Although, I have to say that as with anything, I am aware of the risks and choose to carry about anyways. But all in all, I don't try to push my luck. If I seem to be feeling that I'm carrying way too much speed around the track or beginning to get sloppy, then I dial it back.
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Default two thoughts...

one...do NOT track a car without a good roll cage or roll bar...roll over accidents are surprisingly common at track events.

two...don't track a car you can't afford to total on your dime...I have been looking for some track-day insurance and haven't found anything in the US yet. In the UK there are dozens of companies but I have yet to find one in the US. I wouldn't count on your insurance company being benevolent and fixing your car and the alternative is called insurance fraud.

I hope I can find some track-day insurance because it's certainly an AWESOME thing that folks can track their street cars but you need race-track safety equipement and insurance. Hell, rent a ride from a decent race team and they'll INSIST that you insure their car for the race unless they have it fully covered!
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Default Nasa great points as for the roll overs.....

I have also seen a roll over accident they do happen at lapping days. The thing that blows my mind is people that use a harness bar and harness without a roll bar or cage. I am suprised that more clubs do not outlaw the use of a harness with out a roll bar. Basically using a harness with out the roll bar means your HEAD is the roll bar Regards Adam
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Default There is an active safety quotient inherent in the use of a harness.

The alternative is spending 10% of your concentration trying to position yourself in the seat as you corner. =/

Also, Schroth harnesses have a system that allows you to move forward and to the side in the event of a collision.
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Default This was my daily driver...

<center><img src="http://members.verizon.net/~vze4phja/images/stpr81_1.jpg"></center><p>STPR '81

We pulled it out, and hooked the back to a tree, and yanked the front end back into shape, then drove it home. I had just put in a new radiator, so when it got bent, it didn't leak.

When I got it home, I hooked the front to a telephone pole, and did a bunch of reverse pulls, to get it close to a rectangular shape.

I ended up driving it for 3 or 4 months, then sold it to some young high school kid, for just about what I paid for it before the mods.

It still ran pretty good, and mostly straight.
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Default Re: Mark where can I purchase that harness? I do have to admitt

that at some tracks I do use it because with leather seats you slide all over the place. Which new schroth harness is it? I would be very interested in getting it, and how does it work I can not figure out how it would keep you in your seat but still allow you to move around?
Thanks Adam
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Default it doesnt look that bad. this is the time when it pays to have a friend in a body shop!

I think I would buy the total back from the insurance company and fix it.
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Default A desposable track car is just a few grand away.

One can easily blow that much on audi mods like brakes to make it simply survive a track event. And thats not even getting into making it faster.

I had a load of fun with my corolla. It did cost a lot down the road due to repairs, but it was desposable and generally cheap to maintain.


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