I got one of those Lisle brake bleed tube/cup kits and the instructions say to loosen the bleeder...

Solaris · 11-15-2005, 10:10 AM

and step on the brake pedal. Won't that let air into the system via the bleeder screw threads?

Digit@lex · 11-15-2005, 10:16 AM

If so, you shouldn't have to worry. Also, make sure you just crack the bleeder ever so slightly. Just open it enough to let it start dripping a fine line. It shouldn't be pouring out like water in a faucet.

Carson (K03x2) · 11-15-2005, 10:17 AM

But only if you let up on the pedal with the bleeder cracked open. If you shut the bleeder before releasing the pedal no air should enter the system.

Solaris · 11-15-2005, 10:19 AM

and I wasn't sure if this Lisle tool was accurately described as a "one man bleeder". It was less than $6 and I needed something small to put my Autohausaz order over $50, so I figured I'd take a look at it.

Solaris · 11-15-2005, 10:20 AM

Carson (K03x2) · 11-15-2005, 10:23 AM

The ways to one man bleed are using either pressure via a forced bleeding system (VAG tool 5234 is what I use here at the job) or using vacuum....most hand vacuum pumps sold nowadays include a self brake bleeding kit.

Solaris · 11-15-2005, 10:25 AM

Ritz · 11-15-2005, 10:51 AM

Sears sells a vacuum bleeder that is slightly cheaper, but somewhat of a pain in the *** to use. Instead of forcing fluid through the system by pushing it from the resevoir and out the bleed screw, you pull the fluid out by opening the screw and applying vacuum. You keep refilling the resevoir with the fresh stuff as the used fluid is bled out of the system.

The Motive bleeder is the more "idiot proof" way and a lot easier.

Cheers,

Solaris · 11-15-2005, 11:11 AM

de (-eeez_nutz) · 11-15-2005, 01:03 PM

Most of them, you just press on a hose to the bleeder screw. The friction involved with keeping that hose on the bleeder screw is usually diminished severely as soon as that brake fluid hits it.

11-15-2005, 10:16 AM	#2
Digit@lex Elder Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 26,680	Is there some pressure forcing fluid into the reservoir at the same time? If so, you shouldn't have to worry. Also, make sure you just crack the bleeder ever so slightly. Just open it enough to let it start dripping a fine line. It shouldn't be pouring out like water in a faucet. __________________

11-15-2005, 10:17 AM	#3
Carson (K03x2) Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,462	It could But only if you let up on the pedal with the bleeder cracked open. If you shut the bleeder before releasing the pedal no air should enter the system. __________________ Carson '01 VW GTI VR6 12V - SOLD! '01 S4 Tip Brilliant Black - will be sold for/converted to a 6MT, just a means to an end '06 A4 2.0TQT Arctic White (leased for wife) Audi Parts Consultant/ex-Certified VW/Audi Technician ACNA/NJ Chapter Vice President Next track event: ACNA/NJ Chapter NJMP, Thunderbolt Circuit, May 2009 ACNA/NJ Chapter Karting @ V-17, Feb. 25 7PM

11-15-2005, 10:19 AM	#4
Solaris AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NC Posts: 40,050	No force but the master cylinder. I planned on doing a pedal pump bleed and I wasn't sure if this Lisle tool was accurately described as a "one man bleeder". It was less than $6 and I needed something small to put my Autohausaz order over $50, so I figured I'd take a look at it.

11-15-2005, 10:20 AM	#5
Solaris AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NC Posts: 40,050	so the "one man bleeder" isn't accurate

11-15-2005, 10:23 AM	#6
Carson (K03x2) Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,462	Indeed. The ways to one man bleed are using either pressure via a forced bleeding system (VAG tool 5234 is what I use here at the job) or using vacuum....most hand vacuum pumps sold nowadays include a self brake bleeding kit. __________________ Carson '01 VW GTI VR6 12V - SOLD! '01 S4 Tip Brilliant Black - will be sold for/converted to a 6MT, just a means to an end '06 A4 2.0TQT Arctic White (leased for wife) Audi Parts Consultant/ex-Certified VW/Audi Technician ACNA/NJ Chapter Vice President Next track event: ACNA/NJ Chapter NJMP, Thunderbolt Circuit, May 2009 ACNA/NJ Chapter Karting @ V-17, Feb. 25 7PM

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11-15-2005, 10:25 AM	#7
Solaris AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NC Posts: 40,050	I figured as much. Oh well, I needed a clear tube anyway

11-15-2005, 10:51 AM	#8
Ritz AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,148	If you can't afford a Motive bleeder (which I highly recommend)... Sears sells a vacuum bleeder that is slightly cheaper, but somewhat of a pain in the *** to use. Instead of forcing fluid through the system by pushing it from the resevoir and out the bleed screw, you pull the fluid out by opening the screw and applying vacuum. You keep refilling the resevoir with the fresh stuff as the used fluid is bled out of the system. The Motive bleeder is the more "idiot proof" way and a lot easier. Cheers, __________________ --- 2002 A4 1.8TQM mod-free at the moment (gotta deal with that) Formerly...2001 A6 2.7T quattro 6sp w/GIAC X Before that...1999 A4 1.8T 5sp w/lots o mods

11-15-2005, 11:11 AM	#9
Solaris AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NC Posts: 40,050	I didn't want to spend $40+ to do something another foot can do

11-15-2005, 01:03 PM	#10
de (-eeez_nutz) AudiWorld Expert Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 30,042	Unless you get a vacuum bleeder with a mouth like a hooker, I'd skip it. Most of them, you just press on a hose to the bleeder screw. The friction involved with keeping that hose on the bleeder screw is usually diminished severely as soon as that brake fluid hits it. __________________ All tools are hammers, except screwdrivers, which are chisels.

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