Ordering 2013 without the price guide

Navy ATC · 04-11-2012, 08:01 AM

The Dealer said the price guide won't be out til probably 1st of May, but I can submit my specifications and $1000.00 down to start my order. Ok never ordered quite like that before. When and how do you negotiate the final price?

TRCarbone · 04-11-2012, 10:43 AM

I am in the same situation.

In my case, I am looking for a 2013 S5 Prestige with the Fine Napa Leather option.

I can happily plunk down a grand or two, but how to negotiate the price?

I'm thinking the best bet is to work off of the current pricing... an equivalent 2012, make an offer of $x off the MSRP.

Next, calculate the discount %.

The final price would then be the same discount % off of the MY2013 price. There would be an "out" should the incremental difference between MY2012 and MY2013 exceeds a certain amount (in case the guys at Inglostadt go crazy).

What does everyone think? Can anyone take a stab at a fair number to offer?

Navy ATC · 04-12-2012, 01:43 AM

That sounds like a plan, but when do you think you make the offer? When you send your order and down payment or when it arrives?

TRCarbone · 04-12-2012, 04:02 AM

I'm planning to make the offer now with $1K or $2K down. I'll make them put the deal in writing so that I can back out and have my deposit refunded if the MSRP increases by more than, say, 5%.

This way, the car is on order and I know I'll be getting a fair deal ahead of time.

My revised order would be (codes from the 2013 order guide):

8T354Y quattro S tronic
WPT Prestige package
1G1G Volcano red metallic
ZM Black seating

I also would like to substitute dark wood inlays for the standard brushed aluminum. I'm not sure excatly how to deal with this unknown.

Schumi_Tampa · 04-12-2012, 04:23 AM

Start with $1,000 above invoice and see what response you get.

TRCarbone · 04-12-2012, 05:30 AM

It looks like the 2012 invoice pricing is $57,526 for the auto tranny, metallic paint, and prestige package (less destination charge).

What about offering $59,000 inlcluding the $875 destination charge?

The "discount" on the MSRP is 7%, so I would pay 93% of any increase in the MSRP between MY2012 and MY2013.

Fithian · 04-12-2012, 05:55 AM

I just ordered a 2013 S5 for European Delivery. Since there are no prices yet, it was just MSRP - 5%. That gives the dealer $1000 profit, which is fine with me. I also get the loyalty rebate $1500? and the ACNA rebate $500. They said they are going to ask for MSRP on ones not on ED. Who knows?

8T3549 2013 S5 Coupe Quattro Manual
WPT Prestige
PDU Sports Differential
1BL Adaptive Damping Suspension
N3M Fine Nappa Leather
6W9 Without Front License Plate Holder
1QE Northeast Trading Region Emissions
K0K0 Estoril Blue Crystal Effect
2M Black Seats
5MZ Stainless Steel Mesh Inlay

TRCarbone · 04-12-2012, 07:15 AM

Who knows is right. They will say one thing, but change their mind once you
are walking out the door to the BMW dealer.

Fortunately, I'm not in a "must have" situation, so if the 2 dealers I will visit won't take the offer I'll walk and hang onto my C6A6 for a while.

Does anyone else have any expeience so far ordering a 2013 S5?

waffles · 04-12-2012, 08:25 AM

I just ordered an s4. The negotiated price was set as a 6% discount off msrp

shortfu · 04-12-2012, 10:20 AM

I am ordering a 2013 A5 model at 2012 price.

04-11-2012, 10:43 AM	#2
TRCarbone Audiworld Junior Member 1989 Lotus Esprit My Garage Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 52	Ditto with specifics I am in the same situation. In my case, I am looking for a 2013 S5 Prestige with the Fine Napa Leather option. I can happily plunk down a grand or two, but how to negotiate the price? I'm thinking the best bet is to work off of the current pricing... an equivalent 2012, make an offer of $x off the MSRP. Next, calculate the discount %. The final price would then be the same discount % off of the MY2013 price. There would be an "out" should the incremental difference between MY2012 and MY2013 exceeds a certain amount (in case the guys at Inglostadt go crazy). What does everyone think? Can anyone take a stab at a fair number to offer?

04-12-2012, 04:02 AM	#4
TRCarbone Audiworld Junior Member 1989 Lotus Esprit My Garage Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 52	I'm planning to make the offer now with $1K or $2K down. I'll make them put the deal in writing so that I can back out and have my deposit refunded if the MSRP increases by more than, say, 5%. This way, the car is on order and I know I'll be getting a fair deal ahead of time. My revised order would be (codes from the 2013 order guide): 8T354Y quattro S tronic WPT Prestige package 1G1G Volcano red metallic ZM Black seating I also would like to substitute dark wood inlays for the standard brushed aluminum. I'm not sure excatly how to deal with this unknown. Last edited by TRCarbone; 04-12-2012 at 04:06 AM. Reason: Accidently saved

04-12-2012, 05:55 AM	#7
Fithian AudiWorld Member 2013 Audi S5 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 150	European Delivery I just ordered a 2013 S5 for European Delivery. Since there are no prices yet, it was just MSRP - 5%. That gives the dealer $1000 profit, which is fine with me. I also get the loyalty rebate $1500? and the ACNA rebate $500. They said they are going to ask for MSRP on ones not on ED. Who knows? 8T3549 2013 S5 Coupe Quattro Manual WPT Prestige PDU Sports Differential 1BL Adaptive Damping Suspension N3M Fine Nappa Leather 6W9 Without Front License Plate Holder 1QE Northeast Trading Region Emissions K0K0 Estoril Blue Crystal Effect 2M Black Seats 5MZ Stainless Steel Mesh Inlay __________________ Eph Current: 2011 535i (ED), 2013 S5 6-speed (ED) Previous: 2008 A3, 2001 S4, 2007 335i (ED), 1997 528i (ED), 1995 530i (ED), 1992 325i (ED), 1985 535i (ED), 1984 318i, 1978 530i

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04-12-2012, 01:43 AM	#3
Navy ATC Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 16	That sounds like a plan, but when do you think you make the offer? When you send your order and down payment or when it arrives?

04-12-2012, 04:23 AM	#5
Schumi_Tampa Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 56	Start with $1,000 above invoice and see what response you get.

04-12-2012, 05:30 AM	#6
TRCarbone Audiworld Junior Member 1989 Lotus Esprit My Garage Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 52	It looks like the 2012 invoice pricing is $57,526 for the auto tranny, metallic paint, and prestige package (less destination charge). What about offering $59,000 inlcluding the $875 destination charge? The "discount" on the MSRP is 7%, so I would pay 93% of any increase in the MSRP between MY2012 and MY2013.

04-12-2012, 07:15 AM	#8
TRCarbone Audiworld Junior Member 1989 Lotus Esprit My Garage Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 52	Who knows is right. They will say one thing, but change their mind once you are walking out the door to the BMW dealer. Fortunately, I'm not in a "must have" situation, so if the 2 dealers I will visit won't take the offer I'll walk and hang onto my C6A6 for a while. Does anyone else have any expeience so far ordering a 2013 S5?

04-12-2012, 08:25 AM	#9
waffles AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ATL Posts: 223	I just ordered an s4. The negotiated price was set as a 6% discount off msrp

04-12-2012, 10:20 AM	#10
shortfu Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	I am ordering a 2013 A5 model at 2012 price.