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Old 08-22-2011, 12:36 AM   #1
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Default Help needed on a 2234 - Right Headlight power output stage - error

Hi all - New here, so go easy on me.

'06 RS4.

My daughter (3 yrs old) was in the car turning the lights on and off - on one occasion the right hand xenon failed to ignite. The car threw an error on the screen. I turned the lights off for 10 minutes - fired them back up and everything is fine except the error is still present and the adaptive function of the lights no longer works. I assumed the xenon failed to ignite only because she was flicking them on and off rapidly.

I should point out that the lights still perform standard leveling and self test when the car is started.

When I clear the error while the lights are on (vehicle running) they do a little dance and then it "re faults" [or perhaps I'm not clearing the fault properly on VCDS - i'm pretty new to the software]

From the outside I can't see anything wrong - and I thought I'd ask any of the experts out there what their view is?

1 Fault Found:

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668)
014 - Defective - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Time Indication: 0
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:43 PM   #2
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Don't see much hope there...

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/02234

...you might need a new output stage (the module attached to the headlight assembly).
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:43 PM   #3
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Oh... that's bad news I guess. I called up Audi spare parts - that module is $1,000 - might have to find some other place to source one from.

Which country has the cheapest Audi spares?

Lastly, Can anyone point me in the right direction as to the procedure to code up (including security) a new J668 module?

Thankyou for all your help...

Chris James.
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:39 PM   #4
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That price doesn't sound right at all. Mind posting a complete Auto-Scan please?
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:08 AM   #5
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Full scan below...

In my enthusiasm I re-coded the module 55 (to try to make the problem go away) and it obviously removed all the headlight adjustments - so its now throwing a "01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted" - Which is a new error.
Unfortunately when i try learning the new adjustment (enter security, Basic Settings 04) I get an ERROR Group 001 not available. I'm putting this down to the fact that the system wont allow a basic settings to be done while there is a "faulty" module.

So annoying that everything appears to be working perfectly - I've tested all the bulbs, the adaptive and levelling motors all function correctly when forced to move.

Tuesday,23,August,2011,22:17:40:07533
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
Data version: 20110418



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Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WUAZZZ8E86N901634 Mileage: 14920km/9270miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BNS1.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/4V FSI Ş0080
Revision: --H09--- Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Coding: 01040003180F0160
Shop #: WSC 31250 822 92138
VCID: E3CF38885BC5

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 G HW: 8E0 614 517 BD
Component: ESP8 quattro H06 0150
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004533
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F10A8F395

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BQ
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2832
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 71E3C2C01139

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 L
Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0704
Coding: 01021
Shop #: WSC 65536
VCID: 3B7F20E803F5

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II Labels: 079-910-560-BNS2.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/4V FSI Ş0080
Revision: --H09--- Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Coding: 01040003180F0160
Shop #: WSC 31250 822 92138
VCID: E3CF38885BC5

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G HW: 8E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 9.41 H12 3730
Revision: 91H12373 Serial number: 0036M00B9UA5
Coding: 0430712
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3B7F20E803F5

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549-T.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 T
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0201
Coding: 06021
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 448D5B147E0B

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 G HW: 8E0 920 931 G
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0030
Revision: 0030 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023711
Shop #: WSC 31250 822 92138
VCID: 2C5D13B4F69B

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760 A
Component: Sitzverstellung H01 0020
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 32610DCCD4BF

1 Fault Found:
01970 - Seat Depth Adjustment Button (E350); Backwards
04-10 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 D HW: 8E0 035 192 D
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0460
Revision: 04S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1128451
Coding: 0309114
Shop #: WSC 31250 822 65131
VCID: 254BE6909571

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 196
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.02.17
Time: 07:52:11

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.00 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 2308
Clock: 18:00

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 196
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.02.26
Time: 19:59:45

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 2308
Clock: 18:00


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 CH
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 4035
Coding: 07930
Shop #: WSC 31250
VCID: 79F3FAE04949

Part No: 8E2959802E
Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0506

Part No: 8E2959801E
Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0506

Part No: 8E0959801E
Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0606

Part No: 8E0959802E
Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0606

2 Faults Found:
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -
00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
35-00 - -

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E HW: 4F0 907 357 E
Component: AFS 1 H01 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2855EFA4E263

Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul links H03 0020

Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH03 0020

2 Faults Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Time Indication: 0

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668)
014 - Defective - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 D HW: 8E0 035 192 D
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0460
Revision: 04S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1128451
Coding: 0309114
Shop #: WSC 31250 822 65131
VCID: 254BE6909571

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 196
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.02.17
Time: 07:52:11

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.00 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 2308
Clock: 18:00

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 196
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.02.26
Time: 19:59:45

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 2308
Clock: 18:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: None
Part No SW: 4D0 919 146 D HW: 4D0 919 146 D
Component: TV Tuner H04 0580
Revision: 01H04001 Serial number: 00000000014217
Coding: 0007070
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2A5115ACFC6F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 8E0-907-273.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 907 273 HW: 8E0 907 273
Component: Reifendruck 3 H04 0110
Coding: 0022523
Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
VCID: E9D32AA0B9E9

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8E0-919-283-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 919 283 E HW: 8E0 919 283 E
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H06 0010
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 00067802120605
Coding: 0000104
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 32610DCCD4BF

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:16 AM   #6
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The Adjustment will not work unless you get the "Defective" Fault taken care of. As expected, your Output Stage was superseded, so 8E0-941-329 gets replaced with 8E0-907-391-C which then was superseded again by 8P0-907-391.

8P0-907-391 is about 315 EUR (excl. VAT) here in Germany. Used parts are usually available for half that or less.

Some suppliers are even cheaper...

http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/genu...it_271788.html
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:57 AM   #7
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Thank you - that part number matches what my local dealer gave me.

Is it true that it's very difficult to remove the headlight assembly without taking off the from bumper?
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According to the repair manual it should be straight forward, take the headlight out and then replace the module attached to it. There are some additional steps like ptotective tape to ensure the paint isn't damaged in the process but all those details can be found in the repair manual if needed.

Haven't done it myself but I would guess that it takes 1-2 hours to get that done for somebody who hasn't done it before. So the 1000 USD quote you got sounds really high to me...
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Can anything be determined from the "Fault Status: 11101110" ?
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The Fault Status translates to "014 - Defective - MIL ON".
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