Removing Sunroof Glass Panel to do sunroof shade springs TSB
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Removing Sunroof Glass Panel to do sunroof shade springs TSB
Hi guys - Anyone know how to remove the sunroof glass panel properly???? (so that I dont screw up the alignment, create leaks, etc?)
Our 2005 A6 has the sunroof springs problem. If you arent' familiar, this happens on the earlier models, basically the long springs that keep the sunroof shade in proper position come loose b/c the plastic hooks they attach to snap off. Then they rattle around the headliner, and sometimes fall on your head. (!)
I found a TSB here or somewhere, called "2010952/3, released Dec 3, 2008). It basically says you get this repair kit, a 40 dollar part # 4F0 898 255, that includes 4 hooks, 4 springs and 4 replacement t15 screws.
It looks very easy in the TSB. BUT the one thing that you have to do in order to access the springs is #1 - Remove glass roof panel (refer to group 60, sunroof in repair manual). And that's what I cant readily figure out as I dont have the bentley.
THANKS !
Our 2005 A6 has the sunroof springs problem. If you arent' familiar, this happens on the earlier models, basically the long springs that keep the sunroof shade in proper position come loose b/c the plastic hooks they attach to snap off. Then they rattle around the headliner, and sometimes fall on your head. (!)
I found a TSB here or somewhere, called "2010952/3, released Dec 3, 2008). It basically says you get this repair kit, a 40 dollar part # 4F0 898 255, that includes 4 hooks, 4 springs and 4 replacement t15 screws.
It looks very easy in the TSB. BUT the one thing that you have to do in order to access the springs is #1 - Remove glass roof panel (refer to group 60, sunroof in repair manual). And that's what I cant readily figure out as I dont have the bentley.
THANKS !
#2
Doubt you'll understand without the pictures but here are the instructions:
Sunroof PanelRemoving
Remove trim Slotted Guide Rail Cowl Panel Trim .
Slotted Guide Rail Cowl Panel TrimSecuring segment, removing and installing
1 - Sliding headliner guide spring
2 - Guide spring disengaging guide
To disengage, move slide back into securing segment
Engaging guide spring:
- A - Move slide back - 2 - into securing segment - 3 - .
- B - Allow guide spring - 1 - to engage in - direction of arrow - in securing segment - 3 - .
- C - Allow slide - 2 - to spring back, thereby engaging guide spring.
3 - Securing segment
To remove, pull sideways out of sunroof frame.
Installing:
Installing securing segment
Attach securing segment - 1 - to guide spring as shown and press securing segment into guide on sunroof frame.
Catch in securing segment - arrow - must engage in groove on sunroof frame - arrow - .
Tab - arrow - on spring guide - 2 - must engage under slide - arrow - on securing segment - 1 -
Removing trim
Tilt open sunroof.
Slide sunroof headliner completely toward rear.
Pull securing segment - 1 - sideways out of track.
Pull off trim starting at bottom from frame and from glass sunroof panel - arrows - .
Installing
Installation is reverse of removal, noting the following:
Press trim - 2 - into retainer on glass sunroof panel - 1 - .
Slide trim from below on retaining strip - arrow - onto frame with sunroof operation.
Sliding headliner - 3 -
Note:
Make sure especially that trim is seated correctly in rear mounts on glass sunroof panel.
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Note:
The trim is only installed on vehicles with glass panel.
Further removal and installation applies to glass and solar panel.
.Remove bolts - 1 - and - 3 - .
Loosen bolt - 2 - by several turns.
Remove glass sunroof panel upward from roof opening.
Installing
Installation is reverse of removal, noting the following:
Adjust sunroof panel Sunroof Panel, Adjusting .
Tightening torque
Component Nm
Glass sunroof panel on slotted guide rail 4.5
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Sunroof PanelRemoving
Remove trim Slotted Guide Rail Cowl Panel Trim .
Slotted Guide Rail Cowl Panel TrimSecuring segment, removing and installing
1 - Sliding headliner guide spring
2 - Guide spring disengaging guide
To disengage, move slide back into securing segment
Engaging guide spring:
- A - Move slide back - 2 - into securing segment - 3 - .
- B - Allow guide spring - 1 - to engage in - direction of arrow - in securing segment - 3 - .
- C - Allow slide - 2 - to spring back, thereby engaging guide spring.
3 - Securing segment
To remove, pull sideways out of sunroof frame.
Installing:
Installing securing segment
Attach securing segment - 1 - to guide spring as shown and press securing segment into guide on sunroof frame.
Catch in securing segment - arrow - must engage in groove on sunroof frame - arrow - .
Tab - arrow - on spring guide - 2 - must engage under slide - arrow - on securing segment - 1 -
Removing trim
Tilt open sunroof.
Slide sunroof headliner completely toward rear.
Pull securing segment - 1 - sideways out of track.
Pull off trim starting at bottom from frame and from glass sunroof panel - arrows - .
Installing
Installation is reverse of removal, noting the following:
Press trim - 2 - into retainer on glass sunroof panel - 1 - .
Slide trim from below on retaining strip - arrow - onto frame with sunroof operation.
Sliding headliner - 3 -
Note:
Make sure especially that trim is seated correctly in rear mounts on glass sunroof panel.
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Note:
The trim is only installed on vehicles with glass panel.
Further removal and installation applies to glass and solar panel.
.Remove bolts - 1 - and - 3 - .
Loosen bolt - 2 - by several turns.
Remove glass sunroof panel upward from roof opening.
Installing
Installation is reverse of removal, noting the following:
Adjust sunroof panel Sunroof Panel, Adjusting .
Tightening torque
Component Nm
Glass sunroof panel on slotted guide rail 4.5
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#3
Thanks but I just need instructions for the glass panel
Apparently once I take off that glass panel, i just close the shade, then install the 4 new screw mounts / springs on via torx screw. I think I've figured it out, but by removing the sunroof (glass piece, not all the trim or mounts), it will definitely screw up alignment of it. oh well !
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Apparently once I take off that glass panel, i just close the shade, then install the 4 new screw mounts / springs on via torx screw. I think I've figured it out, but by removing the sunroof (glass piece, not all the trim or mounts), it will definitely screw up alignment of it. oh well !
#7
Hopefully this helps:
Perform height adjustment at front and rear according to illustration to prevent wind noise.
Check height adjustment at each point, left and right, where rounded portion of roof opening merges with straight portion.
Sunroof panel should not be higher than roof at any point at front or lower than roof at any point at rear.
When adjusting sunroof panel height, start by running sunroof from open position (not tilted open) into closed position.
Adjusting
Loosen screws - 1 - to - 3 - several turns.
Adjust panel.
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Perform height adjustment at front and rear according to illustration to prevent wind noise.
Check height adjustment at each point, left and right, where rounded portion of roof opening merges with straight portion.
Sunroof panel should not be higher than roof at any point at front or lower than roof at any point at rear.
When adjusting sunroof panel height, start by running sunroof from open position (not tilted open) into closed position.
Adjusting
Loosen screws - 1 - to - 3 - several turns.
Adjust panel.
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#10
The removal of the glass panel is pretty easy.
All you need is a T25 torx bit.
First open the shade all the way.
Tilt open the sunroof
Remove the left and right interior trims (the ones that look like accordians) by pulling them off from the rear end.
There are 4 torx screws holding the sunroof. Untighten these screws and the sunroof glass can be removed from the top.
When re-attaching the sunroof, just drop the sunroof glass from the roof.
Tighten the 4 torx screws but in a manner whereby the from end is about 1mm lower than the surface of the vehicle and the rear end is about 1mm higher than the surface of the vehicle.
Initially screw in the 4 torx screws with minimal torque and then adjust the glass height and then tighten the screws.
The interior trim can easily be attached by pushing them in.
All you need is a T25 torx bit.
First open the shade all the way.
Tilt open the sunroof
Remove the left and right interior trims (the ones that look like accordians) by pulling them off from the rear end.
There are 4 torx screws holding the sunroof. Untighten these screws and the sunroof glass can be removed from the top.
When re-attaching the sunroof, just drop the sunroof glass from the roof.
Tighten the 4 torx screws but in a manner whereby the from end is about 1mm lower than the surface of the vehicle and the rear end is about 1mm higher than the surface of the vehicle.
Initially screw in the 4 torx screws with minimal torque and then adjust the glass height and then tighten the screws.
The interior trim can easily be attached by pushing them in.