Diesel Cars Boom in the US; Audi A3, Q7 Make Top 10 List

[TIME89]

Back to the topic - J.Spira on his web site publish new article about diesel car sales in US. 335d (once again) outsells 335i I just spent a good part of the past several days going through sales data from BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, and VW to better understand what I've started to call comparable model sales for diesel versus petrol models (an example being the E90 335d versus the E90 335i). Of course it all came formatted differently but I eventually reconciled it and found some really interesting trends. First the BMW stuff. For 2010 (thus far), BMW is number 2 in diesel volume and in the percentage of comparable model diesel models compared to the petrol variant. In June, the E90 335d outsold the E90 335i by a ratio of 7 to 5. This was the second time this year that the oil burner outsold the petrol model. The X5 diesel outsold its petrol-powered equivalent model in May by the way. Volkswagen sells more diesels than anyone (even combining the sales of the other three companies!) and has an amazing diesel take rate on most models. Mercedes-Benz, which introduced the first passenger diesel auto in 1936, was number 4 in both the percentage and total volume. If you want more details and the spreadsheet, please see Diesel Economics 200

[Sundowner]

Originally Posted by TIME89

Back to the topic - J.Spira on his web site publish new article about diesel car sales in US.

335d (once again) outsells 335i

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I just spent a good part of the past several days going through sales data from BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, and VW to better understand what I've started to call comparable model sales for diesel versus petrol models (an example being the E90 335d versus the E90 335i).

Of course it all came formatted differently but I eventually reconciled it and found some really interesting trends.

First the BMW stuff. For 2010 (thus far), BMW is number 2 in diesel volume and in the percentage of comparable model diesel models compared to the petrol variant.

In June, the E90 335d outsold the E90 335i by a ratio of 7 to 5. This was the second time this year that the oil burner outsold the petrol model. The X5 diesel outsold its petrol-powered equivalent model in May by the way.

Volkswagen sells more diesels than anyone (even combining the sales of the other three companies!) and has an amazing diesel take rate on most models.

Mercedes-Benz, which introduced the first passenger diesel auto in 1936, was number 4 in both the percentage and total volume.

If you want more details and the spreadsheet, please see Diesel Economics 200

your spreadsheet does not consider that the spikes in diesel sales correspond nicely to tax day and to the end of the full tax credit in june. Of course the numbers are going to be higher. Let's see the next few months hold the trend or they drop off.

[Sundowner]

Originally Posted by kristatos

This is exactly what I am saying - people don't buy "by the math" or we'd all drive the same econobox and drag a trailer when we need to haul stuff. Americans bought lots of big SUVs and trucks in the 80s and 90s because those cars and the fuel they run on were cheap enough.

Look at the thread in the A3 forum - TDIs (and diesels in general) account already for a significant percentage of sales within a model. For some cars like A3 and Volkswagen Jetta the diesel version of the car sells as much as the gasoline version. You haven't convinced me that these cars are not compelling to the average consumer and as they are marketed more aggressively and more models come available in diesel we could see wider adoption - for sure there are still obstacles but in a lot of ways diesel makes as much if not more sense than a hybrid.

For the jetta, esp. the wagon, they only way to get the full option spread is to get the TDI. the 2.0T is no longer offered. When the customer's engine options are "boat anchor" or "TDI", then duh, of course they're gonna get the TDI. The choice is even easier when the Gov't is picking up a goodly bit of the cost difference.

After owning a diesel TDI, I don't know that I'd ever buy another one. At least not a VW one. VAG has turned the simplest of I/C engines into a Rube Goldberg tribute. I don't think there's more than a 12" run of straight exhaust pipe under my car in between the various filters scrubbers and catalysts. Diesels in general are only getting more mechanically complex, hybrids and pure electrics are only getting simpler. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see a future for the technology.

[Q3_]

from "Diesel Fuel Prices" http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_Prices.aspx
"(1) Fuel Production
As per the current refinery structure, each barrel of oil produces more gasoline than diesel. 19% of each barrel of oil is used for the production of diesel fuel as against 47% of each barrel that is used for production of gasoline. This implies lower production costs for gasoline than for diesel."

[ibsmunish2011]

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[MonzaA5]

Originally Posted by toovo1985

Hi guys,

I'm from Portugal and I would like anyone to explain me why haven't diesel engines ever had success in America? Is it because of the specificies of american cars?

If anyone would care to answer my question I would be thankful

Up until very recently, diesel engines were crap (noisy, slow, etc.) Europeans had to put up with that because with high fuel prices, a 30% improvement in fuel economy is a pretty big deal. North America always had much lower fule prices than Europe, so the fuel efficiency/performance trade-off wasn't worth it for most drivers.