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EvilBob · 03-14-2009, 11:30 AM

One of the primary reasons I got mine. No small kids around or anything but don't want to come home and open the door to find myself looking down the barrel of one of my guns. Or wake up in the middle of the night to find myself on the wrong side of something that wasn't locked up.

js0ne · 03-14-2009, 12:05 PM

oversteer · 03-14-2009, 01:59 PM

shredder · 03-15-2009, 09:47 AM

John Lee Pettimore · 03-15-2009, 11:52 AM

but i live in a small town of 8,000

oneformula · 03-15-2009, 02:25 PM

oneformula · 03-15-2009, 02:33 PM

Joey T is correct, plus...

Myth: Handguns are 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a criminal
Fact: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths involved criminal activity between the family members (drug deals gone bad).*

Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense
Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were**:
Resisting with a gun 6%
Did nothing at all 25%
Resisted with a knife 40%
Non-violent resistance 45%

*Arthur L. Kellerman, Protection or Peril?: An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60 1986. Kellerman admits that his study did "not include cases in which burglars or intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm." He also admitted his study did not look at situations in which intruders "purposely avoided a home known to be armed." This is a classic case of a "study" conducted to achieve a desired result. In his critique of this "study", Gary Kleck notes that the estimation of gun ownership rates were "inaccurate" , and that the total population came from a non-random selection of only two cities.

**British Home Office - not a "pro-gun" organization by any means

odelay12v · 03-17-2009, 05:42 AM

first off we have one hella loud grarage door.. and its right below my bedroom i sleep very lightly and this would almost knock me off bed.. plus the door to the garage is locked.. and then they would have to get past KUJO and i dont leave my car on the garage anyways.. and my wife is a damn good shot too for a Frenchie

InTTruder · 03-18-2009, 09:51 AM

Bull****-

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oneformula the One who will bring balance to the Formula Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 75,179	this is VERY false. please do not spread this wrong information Joey T is correct, plus... Myth: Handguns are 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a criminal Fact: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths involved criminal activity between the family members (drug deals gone bad).* Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were*: Resisting with a gun 6% Did nothing at all 25% Resisted with a knife 40% Non-violent resistance 45% Arthur L. Kellerman, Protection or Peril?: An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60 1986. Kellerman admits that his study did "not include cases in which burglars or intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm." He also admitted his study did not look at situations in which intruders "purposely avoided a home known to be armed." This is a classic case of a "study" conducted to achieve a desired result. In his critique of this "study", Gary Kleck notes that the estimation of gun ownership rates were "inaccurate" , and that the total population came from a non-random selection of only two cities. **British Home Office - not a "pro-gun" organization by any means __________________ 2008: 1st (14,999) 2007: 10th (12,575) 2006: 19th (11,727) 2005: 6th (17,399) 2004: 14th (10,201) NRA Lifetime Member Second Amendment Foundation Member

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