A3 effect on A4

Djca33 · 01-23-2005, 08:12 AM

Do you think the price of the A3 will raise the price of the new A4, and do you think they'll be less inclined to offer an attractiv lease on the A4? Finally, when is the A3 supposed to reach US Showrooms?? Now off to watch football coverage..GO EAGLES!!

macrocosm · 01-23-2005, 12:52 PM

From the dealers perspective... which I happen to know because I work at one.... Audi internally has been touting that they are going to price the cars in a tier one perspective in order to widen the gaps between Audi and Volkswagen. The inital price of the A3 will be in line with the current price of the A4, the realistic price of 28000-37000.00 The A4 will then overlap around 35000-45000 with the S4 comming in around 53000.00 as an average. We assume this becuase the current price of the A6 which is 48-60000 and then the A8 around 70000.00. As for the lease programs I can assure you (and take my word because I am the finance manager here) There will be NO LEASE SPECIALS or rate specials when these cars hit the ground. There most likely will not be a program until the current body A4's are long gone. When the new A6 hit there where no programs for almost 2 months, we just got our first programs and they are NOTHING like the programs available on the current A4. The release date for the A3 in the states will be April / May with the S4 right behind it, as we are expecting the first A4 B7 any day now (we have one on truck on its way here) that is a "demo/order" car.

We did get to deliver a car to an AOA proving grounds track employee reciently and got some cool news.... The RS4 WILL WITHOUT QUESTION COME TO THE STATES. This has been confirmed with 425hp under its belt. We will not, however get the avant version of the car. We will also get the LeMans which is being tested as we speak, VERY EXCITING NEWS. as for a powerplant for that car, my source could not comment but he did say that it would be a VERY LIMMITED CAR. Also the Q7, I was told was bigger than I expected. It will be bigger than the current model Explorer... I think that is pretty big for a European SUV...

All pretty cool news./.... I will share as I learn

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Djca33 · 01-23-2005, 01:03 PM

Aight...I hear you... next question.. So you think the A4 will begin it's lease program around June?? You think the lease will be in the $400 range?? I think I asked this question earlier in the week...just want new perspective as I begin to save up for that "cash due at signing" money....

macrocosm · 01-23-2005, 01:37 PM

Here is a very humble quote...
WITH 5000 DOWN 12K MILES PER YEAR...
Using a money factor of .00260 a residual of 44% and a selling price of 37500.00 with a MSRP of 37500.00 your payment would be around 517.16/month for 48 months.

I would bet that will be close.

MatthewZ · 01-23-2005, 05:16 PM

If they plan on putting a serious dent to BMW and Mercedes in the US...they need to undercut them pricewise. $38,000 for a loaded A3 3.2 and $45,000 for a loaded A4 3.2 is ridiculous IMO.

stormchaser · 01-23-2005, 06:30 PM

CRATOS · 01-23-2005, 07:13 PM

Good luck Audi and VW.

RXBG · 01-23-2005, 07:21 PM

US release date for the le mans and the RS4. believe it or not, i will actually hold off on the RS4 if the LMQ will only be a 12-24 months away....

RXBG · 01-23-2005, 07:23 PM

the TL is a wonderful car but it's not an audi. the B7 is worth the price of admission over the TL- at least i think it is. i am sure you have your reasons but i hope you reconsider....

qfrog Ti20 · 01-23-2005, 07:32 PM

Thats about $61K usd.

little car BIG BIG price tag.

01-23-2005, 12:52 PM	#2
macrocosm New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 443	Prices and release date From the dealers perspective... which I happen to know because I work at one.... Audi internally has been touting that they are going to price the cars in a tier one perspective in order to widen the gaps between Audi and Volkswagen. The inital price of the A3 will be in line with the current price of the A4, the realistic price of 28000-37000.00 The A4 will then overlap around 35000-45000 with the S4 comming in around 53000.00 as an average. We assume this becuase the current price of the A6 which is 48-60000 and then the A8 around 70000.00. As for the lease programs I can assure you (and take my word because I am the finance manager here) There will be NO LEASE SPECIALS or rate specials when these cars hit the ground. There most likely will not be a program until the current body A4's are long gone. When the new A6 hit there where no programs for almost 2 months, we just got our first programs and they are NOTHING like the programs available on the current A4. The release date for the A3 in the states will be April / May with the S4 right behind it, as we are expecting the first A4 B7 any day now (we have one on truck on its way here) that is a "demo/order" car. We did get to deliver a car to an AOA proving grounds track employee reciently and got some cool news.... The RS4 WILL WITHOUT QUESTION COME TO THE STATES. This has been confirmed with 425hp under its belt. We will not, however get the avant version of the car. We will also get the LeMans which is being tested as we speak, VERY EXCITING NEWS. as for a powerplant for that car, my source could not comment but he did say that it would be a VERY LIMMITED CAR. Also the Q7, I was told was bigger than I expected. It will be bigger than the current model Explorer... I think that is pretty big for a European SUV... All pretty cool news./.... I will share as I learn http://www.ScottsdaleAudi.com __________________ 2002 TT ALMS (my old car... still need new sig) And.. 2001 Audi A6 4.2 Black/Taupe CPO Now new owner of 2008 Audi TT 2.0T ... Very proud... also owned 3 other A4s 1998 2003 2007 2006 VW T-REG and 2001 VW Jetta hee hee Proud AZAudi.org charter member ________________________________________ Scottsdale Audi Former Employee... christianharding@mac.com

01-23-2005, 01:03 PM	#3
Djca33 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 86	Re: Prices and release date Aight...I hear you... next question.. So you think the A4 will begin it's lease program around June?? You think the lease will be in the $400 range?? I think I asked this question earlier in the week...just want new perspective as I begin to save up for that "cash due at signing" money....

01-23-2005, 01:37 PM	#4
macrocosm New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 443	Projected lease payments Here is a very humble quote... WITH 5000 DOWN 12K MILES PER YEAR... Using a money factor of .00260 a residual of 44% and a selling price of 37500.00 with a MSRP of 37500.00 your payment would be around 517.16/month for 48 months. I would bet that will be close. __________________ 2002 TT ALMS (my old car... still need new sig) And.. 2001 Audi A6 4.2 Black/Taupe CPO Now new owner of 2008 Audi TT 2.0T ... Very proud... also owned 3 other A4s 1998 2003 2007 2006 VW T-REG and 2001 VW Jetta hee hee Proud AZAudi.org charter member ________________________________________ Scottsdale Audi Former Employee... christianharding@mac.com

01-23-2005, 05:16 PM	#5
MatthewZ Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 852	If those price estimates are accurate...big mistake by Audi... If they plan on putting a serious dent to BMW and Mercedes in the US...they need to undercut them pricewise. $38,000 for a loaded A3 3.2 and $45,000 for a loaded A4 3.2 is ridiculous IMO.

01-23-2005, 06:30 PM	#6
stormchaser New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 351	I am waiting until Audi brings in a TDI to the States!!!

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01-23-2005, 07:13 PM	#7
CRATOS AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 636	If that's true, I'll pull the trigger on a new TL and forget the B7 A4 altogether. Good luck Audi and VW.

01-23-2005, 07:21 PM	#8
RXBG AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 4,249	ANY NEWS RE: US release date for the le mans and the RS4. believe it or not, i will actually hold off on the RS4 if the LMQ will only be a 12-24 months away.... __________________ RXBG Past: A4, TT, S4, R8 V8 Present: R8 V10

01-23-2005, 07:23 PM	#9
RXBG AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 4,249	don't do that! the TL is a wonderful car but it's not an audi. the B7 is worth the price of admission over the TL- at least i think it is. i am sure you have your reasons but i hope you reconsider.... __________________ RXBG Past: A4, TT, S4, R8 V8 Present: R8 V10

01-23-2005, 07:32 PM	#10
qfrog Ti20 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,711	on audi.co.uk you can spend $33K GBP on an A3 Thats about $61K usd. little car BIG BIG price tag.

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