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Thinking it might be on the RS6 perhaps.
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Not necessarily to the outer wheel but with the wheel with the most grip, unlike an open diff where it goes to the wheel with the least grip.
With a mechanical system, there is no way to 'override' or change the behaviour of this system. With the torque-vectoring, you can, so this all gets tied into the stability system for that extra bit of safety. |
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to excellent effect by Alfa almost 15 years ago. I've driven a 164 Q4, and it feels a bit like an old school QTR car, but with much more willingness to change directions quickly. It can be made to over-steer or under-steer at will, or if driven below threshold, is utterly neutral.
Horribly complex (albeit reliable by all accounts) and expensive, it's taken cheap integrated electronics systems to make it viable for mass market cars. In the end, it depends on how a system is set up to perform. A vectored system going into an Audi will probably yeild more sporting dynamics than say a budget luxury car maker like Acura. "Alfa Romeo brought the incredible technical experience it had built up over the years to bear when it produced a four wheel drive version of its range leader, the 164. In December 1993, customers were able to buy a 164 Q4 powered by the legendary 231 bhp V6 engine. In this case, the four wheel drive layout had been further developed to ensure maximum performance and peak driving comfort. The heart of the system was the central Viscomatic viscous coupling developed exclusively by Alfa Romeo in conjunction with Steyr-Puch. The Viscomatic was managed by an on-board electronic system that communicated in real time with the engine control unit and ABS control unit. Moment by moment, the system detected and processed information on four different parameters: total drive torque requested, speed, steering angle and slip difference between front and rear axles. It was able to adjust drive torque distribution between the axles with incredible speed on the basis of vehicle speed, cornering radius, engine rpm, throttle opening and closure and ABS parameters. This guaranteed improved torque distribution at any moment and in any situation. In this case too, the Q4 drive system was based on a Torsen self-locking rear differential. This rear differential was responsible for the important task of redistributing the torque allocated to the rear end (in real time) between the wheels on the rear axle: this benefited traction and also car handling over mixed routes. An epicyclic unit was also fitted between the coupling and rear differential to amplify speed differences between coupling input and output. This made it faster and more sensitive while reducing the level of torque managed by the coupling. " http://www.italiancar.net/pilot/feature012.htm
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It's more like decelerating the spinning wheel.
Torque-vectoring, from what I understand, will actually speed up the wheel beyond the level of acceleration you indiciate on the pedal.
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was the absolute best awd system ever devised for a road car.
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it is the inner wheel that gets starved of torque until the bosy roll unloads the wheel enough when, all of a sudden, all the torque goes to the inside and spins it (well technically half the torque that can be put down on the road but the driver feels this as if it is all the available torque).
VC works extremely well with a torsen rear to allow complete torque adjustemtn to the wheels that can utilize it. The Subaru produced by Pro drive has a really advanced version of this set up. |
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the series for revamping, as Alfa was unstoppable.
![]() The 164 system is more proactive - as can be seen in the video. But Alfa was already looking at other angles..... ![]() ![]() PrCar action! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQigN057dMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEiXGeQIpf8
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