Bird crap baked on paint

ex-quattro PETE · 09-09-2007, 06:36 PM

It couldn't have been there longer than about 6 hours cause that's how long I was away from the car, but in direct sun on black paint at 95F I guess it was enough to bake it. Now there are matte spots that look like when you burn something in a frying pan. I tried claybar but it didn't touch it. Is there anything I can do to restore this or is the damage permanent?

Any products you'd suggest?

A6Gary · 09-09-2007, 09:36 PM

doctordave · 09-10-2007, 04:20 AM

right in the middle of the day, for a few hours like in your case. I'll tell you that it took me a few passes with a rotary polisher and Menzerna IP/FP to get it back to a point where I couldn't see it from any angle.

It was right on my hood, and the car was sitting in full sunlight for a good part of the afternoon. 2-3 layers of FMJ had no chance against steaming hot bird crap! You may get lucky with just some light polishing, but use my example to indicate that it may also very well be possible that you will have to spend 90 minutes working on it like I did.

Best of luck -- bring that black beauty back to life....

Raistlin · 09-10-2007, 05:57 AM

didn't even get out. Now I don't know which Menzerna was used (Phil just grabbed one quickly and used it on the spot) it appeared to get rid of the dull stain at that moment, but when I went to wash my car a week later it was still there. I used some 3M IHG by hand and the removed the dullness instantly.

I used the 3M IHG on my Dolphin Grey B6 when my hood got attached by birds and it worked great. From my experience IHG is the best at removing that dull bird crap residue.

RKA · 09-10-2007, 10:16 AM

It will clean crap off the clearcoat, or hide imperfections temporarily, but it will not polish down damaged clearcoat the way Menzerna will.

I believe one of the detailing websites recommends P21S Multifinish Restorer mixed in small quantity with IHG, when IHG alone isn't sufficient to fix an issue with the paint...so that's another option if you can't do a proper polish.

Raistlin · 09-10-2007, 10:24 AM

Because after using IHG the dull marks were gone and I never noticed if they came back on my old car. And so far on my new car the spot has not come back, I am of course going to have to check it out tonight when I get home.

Which Menzerna polish would be best for this situation?

DoubleTrouble · 09-10-2007, 03:50 PM

I was in too much of a hurry and too p.o.'d about something else to track down the service manager.

Looks like a family of seagulls were camped out above it.

Needless to say, after my last detail, there are no obvious signs of damage.

Mateoloco · 09-11-2007, 06:23 AM

RKA · 09-11-2007, 02:04 PM

As always, the rule of thumb is the least aggressive polish you need to correct the issue. Pad choice affects the final results as well. If final polish with a mild cut pad doesn't cure it, step up to intensive polish with a med. cut pad.

ex-quattro PETE · 09-11-2007, 02:15 PM

RKA mentioned a mild cut pad. Which particular one would you suggest? FYI, I'll be doing this by hand, not machine.

09-09-2007, 09:36 PM	#2
A6Gary AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,372	A light polish compound (e.g., One Grand Omega Glaze) should restore the finish.

09-10-2007, 04:20 AM	#3
doctordave AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 442	I had this happen over the summer on my Cosmos Black M Roadster right in the middle of the day, for a few hours like in your case. I'll tell you that it took me a few passes with a rotary polisher and Menzerna IP/FP to get it back to a point where I couldn't see it from any angle. It was right on my hood, and the car was sitting in full sunlight for a good part of the afternoon. 2-3 layers of FMJ had no chance against steaming hot bird crap! You may get lucky with just some light polishing, but use my example to indicate that it may also very well be possible that you will have to spend 90 minutes working on it like I did. Best of luck -- bring that black beauty back to life....

09-10-2007, 05:57 AM	#4
Raistlin AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,117	I have had wonderful results with 3M IHG (Imperial Hand Glaze), I had a spot on my BB that Menzerna didn't even get out. Now I don't know which Menzerna was used (Phil just grabbed one quickly and used it on the spot) it appeared to get rid of the dull stain at that moment, but when I went to wash my car a week later it was still there. I used some 3M IHG by hand and the removed the dullness instantly. I used the 3M IHG on my Dolphin Grey B6 when my hood got attached by birds and it worked great. From my experience IHG is the best at removing that dull bird crap residue. __________________ 2k7 B7 2.0T qTip, BB w/Ebony, Convenience, Premium, Bluetooth, Heated Seats, Sports Suspension, 18" S-Line Rims, RS4 Rear Sway Bar, S4 Alum Mirrors & Door Blades, Kerscher CF Splitter, Votex 3pc Rear Lip Spoiler, Painted Rear Valence, 38% Titanium Tint, V1, Nuvi 660, DICE w/ iPod Touch, Audi Sport Rubber Mats, Audi Sport License Frame, Battery & RS4 Engine Covers

09-10-2007, 10:16 AM	#5
RKA AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 67,001	IHG doesn't have anything that will restore damaged clearcoat. It will clean crap off the clearcoat, or hide imperfections temporarily, but it will not polish down damaged clearcoat the way Menzerna will. I believe one of the detailing websites recommends P21S Multifinish Restorer mixed in small quantity with IHG, when IHG alone isn't sufficient to fix an issue with the paint...so that's another option if you can't do a proper polish. __________________ 2005.5 A4 Avant 2.0T Quattro 6MT APR 91/93/100 \| APR Exhaust \| 19" BBS RS-GT's \| Carbonio \| Hotchkis \| Partridge-in-a-pear-tree Others: 2006 TL on the block 2001 S4 sold 2000 A4 sold * September 11th, 2001 - Never Forget *

09-10-2007, 10:24 AM	#6
Raistlin AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,117	Then I guess my bird stains did not "damage" the clear coat. Because after using IHG the dull marks were gone and I never noticed if they came back on my old car. And so far on my new car the spot has not come back, I am of course going to have to check it out tonight when I get home. Which Menzerna polish would be best for this situation? __________________ 2k7 B7 2.0T qTip, BB w/Ebony, Convenience, Premium, Bluetooth, Heated Seats, Sports Suspension, 18" S-Line Rims, RS4 Rear Sway Bar, S4 Alum Mirrors & Door Blades, Kerscher CF Splitter, Votex 3pc Rear Lip Spoiler, Painted Rear Valence, 38% Titanium Tint, V1, Nuvi 660, DICE w/ iPod Touch, Audi Sport Rubber Mats, Audi Sport License Frame, Battery & RS4 Engine Covers

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09-10-2007, 03:50 PM	#7
DoubleTrouble AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New London, NH Posts: 1,247	Threadjack(sort of) I picked up my car from dealer service appt like this........ I was in too much of a hurry and too p.o.'d about something else to track down the service manager. Looks like a family of seagulls were camped out above it. Needless to say, after my last detail, there are no obvious signs of damage. __________________ 2004 A6 2.7T S-Line 3M clear bra 20% tint rear/30% front 18" RS6 Reps <SOLD> need new setup OEM Rubber Mats Debadged boot 16" OEM sport rims with Blizzak REVO 1

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Mateoloco Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,427	that's unacceptable __________________

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RKA AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 67,001	Best for which situation...damaged clearcoat? As always, the rule of thumb is the least aggressive polish you need to correct the issue. Pad choice affects the final results as well. If final polish with a mild cut pad doesn't cure it, step up to intensive polish with a med. cut pad. __________________ 2005.5 A4 Avant 2.0T Quattro 6MT APR 91/93/100 \| APR Exhaust \| 19" BBS RS-GT's \| Carbonio \| Hotchkis \| Partridge-in-a-pear-tree Others: 2006 TL on the block 2001 S4 sold 2000 A4 sold * September 11th, 2001 - Never Forget *

09-11-2007, 02:15 PM	#10
ex-quattro PETE AudiWorld Expert Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 25,417	What do I apply it with? RKA mentioned a mild cut pad. Which particular one would you suggest? FYI, I'll be doing this by hand, not machine. __________________ n00b FAQ \| 2003 Official AudiWorld Postwhore \| Got questions? Audi Maintenance Schedules \| It's the truth!

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