Ur Quattro turbo coupe 20v

Dave1970 · 05-03-2002, 03:20 PM

Would anyone know can a 1990 ur quattro turbo 20v from europe be imported to the US and modified so it meets the government tests (DOT) in order to make it street legal? If so is it very expensive to do so?

snoogins · 05-03-2002, 08:07 PM

...The car has to meet emissions standards. It had to have the US bumpers, and I believe that it must be a model that has been crash tested at 5 MPH. The lights will also have to be changed to get it in. You're better off looking for a reasonably priced ur-Quattro, and just doing a 3b swap. The euro cars are just too hard too federalize. Even if you can sneak it in under the grey laws, you're still limited to something like 2500 miles a year. And yes, they will check.

Dave1970 · 05-04-2002, 06:35 AM

I am not familiar with the term 3b swap, can you explain what this intails?

snoogins · 05-04-2002, 06:54 AM

...and the 200's. You can find wrecked 200's, once in a while, that that'll do the trick. Most people want something like three to four grand for the motor and ECU for these. The conversion can run fairly cheaply, if you're willing to do the work yourself. BIGMOUSE, on the 80-90/Cab board, just did a 3b swap into his car for something right around $4000 I think. He did ALL of the work himself, and it took him about a week of grunting and sweating to get it done. That's not too bad. Most of the other conversions done in the US have been done by "professionals", and have run into the $30,000 to $60,000 range. If you decide to go this route, stay clear from 2Bennett. The last one they did is in the current issue of European Car magazine. It cost just north of $50,000 to do. It took them 3 years, and it's still not done correctly. If you do decide to do the swap, and want it done correctly, have George at AJP tunning in Bristol, PA do it. George is **** about getting things right, and getting it to look like it came from the factory. I've personally seen two of the 1990 eS2 conversions that he did, and they were spotless. Trully magnificent work. HTH.

Evilclown · 05-04-2002, 07:38 PM

snoogins · 05-05-2002, 06:38 AM

...Just because they didn't get them over here, doesn't mean there weren't any.

Evilclown · 05-05-2002, 08:54 PM

Would've been nice to see an UrQ armed with a factory 3B in the States, though...

snoogins · 05-05-2002, 09:52 PM

urq20vt · 05-09-2002, 06:33 AM

Although the RR is just about identical to the 3B.

urq20vt · 05-09-2002, 06:36 AM

05-03-2002, 08:07 PM	#2
snoogins AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13,987	Read on... ...The car has to meet emissions standards. It had to have the US bumpers, and I believe that it must be a model that has been crash tested at 5 MPH. The lights will also have to be changed to get it in. You're better off looking for a reasonably priced ur-Quattro, and just doing a 3b swap. The euro cars are just too hard too federalize. Even if you can sneak it in under the grey laws, you're still limited to something like 2500 miles a year. And yes, they will check. __________________

05-04-2002, 06:35 AM	#3
Dave1970 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2	Re: Read on... I am not familiar with the term 3b swap, can you explain what this intails?

05-04-2002, 06:54 AM	#4
snoogins AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13,987	The 3b is the 20v turbo motor that was put into the 20v ur-Quattros... ...and the 200's. You can find wrecked 200's, once in a while, that that'll do the trick. Most people want something like three to four grand for the motor and ECU for these. The conversion can run fairly cheaply, if you're willing to do the work yourself. BIGMOUSE, on the 80-90/Cab board, just did a 3b swap into his car for something right around $4000 I think. He did ALL of the work himself, and it took him about a week of grunting and sweating to get it done. That's not too bad. Most of the other conversions done in the US have been done by "professionals", and have run into the $30,000 to $60,000 range. If you decide to go this route, stay clear from 2Bennett. The last one they did is in the current issue of European Car magazine. It cost just north of $50,000 to do. It took them 3 years, and it's still not done correctly. If you do decide to do the swap, and want it done correctly, have George at AJP tunning in Bristol, PA do it. George is **** about getting things right, and getting it to look like it came from the factory. I've personally seen two of the 1990 eS2 conversions that he did, and they were spotless. Trully magnificent work. HTH. __________________

05-04-2002, 07:38 PM	#5
Evilclown AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 41,192	The 3b only came in the '91 200T, the previous years had MC 10v engines.

05-05-2002, 06:38 AM	#6
snoogins AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13,987	Uhhh, no. The 3b appeared in the 200 as well as the 20v ur-Quattro starting in 1989... ...Just because they didn't get them over here, doesn't mean there weren't any. __________________

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05-05-2002, 08:54 PM	#7
Evilclown AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 41,192	I meant Stateside. :) Would've been nice to see an UrQ armed with a factory 3B in the States, though...

05-05-2002, 09:52 PM	#8
snoogins AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13,987	That it would've. __________________

05-09-2002, 06:33 AM	#9
urq20vt AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 2,446	Technically, no, it was the RR not 3B in the ur q. Although the RR is just about identical to the 3B.

05-09-2002, 06:36 AM	#10
urq20vt AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 2,446	The 3B was in the 200q 20V and earlier S2, not ur q.

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