Frozen engine blocks

PJM99 · 02-12-2004, 11:04 AM

Just heard a story about some place up north, NH or VT, that cryo freezes metal parts to strengthen them. The freeze engine block and parts for racers. I guess the freezing process strengthens the molecules in the metal and helps reduce friction and improves reliability. Also, the person is creating a system that injects a small amount of water into the cylinder which creates a little more power and effiency. I guess it also steam cleans the inside of the engine. If I get a website I will post it. Anyone out there know of anything like this?

85-4kq-girl · 02-12-2004, 11:08 AM

Obviously, different than doing it to engine blocks, but still the same idea to yield the same outcome. I had never heard of it before, and was amazed that people actually take golf so damn seriously as to have their clubs cryo-frozen!

--morgan

Coldfire info...

PJM99 · 02-12-2004, 11:15 AM

the guy had a nissan maxima with 325K miles. The car was shot, but he engine was clean and ran perfectly. He froze the engine when was new and installed the water system around the same time. Its amazing what they do.

Supercoupe · 02-12-2004, 11:21 AM

never really took off though, you had to keep up with your fresh water supply bottle. Most people didn't even check there own oil then.

martinlatimer · 02-12-2004, 11:28 AM

seriously though where can i learn more about this water thing

PJM99 · 02-12-2004, 11:32 AM

diesel engine distributor. I went down to visit on my lunch break to see the old crew and this guy was there talking about this. I'll see if I can get more info.

quattrospgz3 · 02-12-2004, 11:51 AM

I've got a slimilar setup on my 4KQT

http://www.turbomirage.com/water3.html

Evilclown · 02-12-2004, 12:36 PM

StormChaser404 · 02-12-2004, 12:51 PM

I've heard great things about cryo rotors from people who spend a lot of time at the track. It's likely what I will put on the CGT when the rotors need replacing...

http://www.frozenrotors.com/frozenrotors.shtml

cuatrokoop · 02-12-2004, 04:50 PM

I had a set of 12x1.25's that were cryo'd. I warped them and wore out a set of pads in 25k. I had a set of normal 12x1.25's. I warped those and wore out pads in the same mileage. The rotors had similar wear. I could see using them in enduro racing, where getting that last bit out can mean a difference of getting a top 3 and hitting the armco.

02-12-2004, 11:08 AM	#2
85-4kq-girl AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 7,661	Ha...I know of a guy who does a similar process to golf clubs... Obviously, different than doing it to engine blocks, but still the same idea to yield the same outcome. I had never heard of it before, and was amazed that people actually take golf so damn seriously as to have their clubs cryo-frozen! --morgan Coldfire info... __________________ www.s4girl.com www.audi4000.com 95urs6--96a4--01s4--04allroad RIP OWK.

02-12-2004, 11:15 AM	#3
PJM99 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 19,153	its pretty cool the guy had a nissan maxima with 325K miles. The car was shot, but he engine was clean and ran perfectly. He froze the engine when was new and installed the water system around the same time. Its amazing what they do. __________________ AIM: Spankypjm ----- "In the desert there is no sign that says, Thou shalt not eat stones." - Sufi proverb <big>1985 Audi 4000 S quattro</big>

02-12-2004, 11:21 AM	#4
Supercoupe AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,568	Water injection is nothing new,was tried back in the fifties or sixties.. never really took off though, you had to keep up with your fresh water supply bottle. Most people didn't even check there own oil then. __________________

02-12-2004, 11:28 AM	#5
martinlatimer New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 324	Your thoughts and ideas intriuge me and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter seriously though where can i learn more about this water thing __________________ Martin Latimer F=ma: Fun equals mass times acceleration. 87' 4kq 87' 5k CS Turbo MSN Messenger: martinlatimer@hotmail.com

02-12-2004, 11:32 AM	#6
PJM99 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 19,153	I used to work for John Deere diesel engine distributor. I went down to visit on my lunch break to see the old crew and this guy was there talking about this. I'll see if I can get more info. __________________ AIM: Spankypjm ----- "In the desert there is no sign that says, Thou shalt not eat stones." - Sufi proverb <big>1985 Audi 4000 S quattro</big>

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02-12-2004, 11:51 AM	#7
quattrospgz3 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 127	Try this one.. I've got a slimilar setup on my 4KQT http://www.turbomirage.com/water3.html

02-12-2004, 12:36 PM	#8
Evilclown AudiWorld Uber User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 41,192	Chill hardening. It works well.

02-12-2004, 12:51 PM	#9
StormChaser404 Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,325	Yup, works VERY well for brake rotors.... I've heard great things about cryo rotors from people who spend a lot of time at the track. It's likely what I will put on the CGT when the rotors need replacing... http://www.frozenrotors.com/frozenrotors.shtml __________________ Dave My former Audi: 1987 Coupe GT Special Build 2.3 (H4s, custom exhaust, Borbet Type Es with Yoko AVS ES100s tires, Recaro Trophy seats, Euro 90 Sport 3 spoke steering wheel, 4Kq swaybar, Boge TurboGas struts/shocks, Eibach springs from a Typ89 sedan, Kenwood Bazooka & Blaupunkt stero system, R134a converted AC blowing 34*F, 35% metalic charcoal tint, fresh paint in original Anthracite Black) 2003 Infiniti G35 1993 RX7 - R1 (shared toy, stock)

02-12-2004, 04:50 PM	#10
cuatrokoop AudiWorld Super User 1990 Audi Coupe My Garage Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 17,478	Not worth it for a street car really. BTDT. No performance or longevity increase noticable. I had a set of 12x1.25's that were cryo'd. I warped them and wore out a set of pads in 25k. I had a set of normal 12x1.25's. I warped those and wore out pads in the same mileage. The rotors had similar wear. I could see using them in enduro racing, where getting that last bit out can mean a difference of getting a top 3 and hitting the armco. __________________ http://coupe.gofergusons.org "SECRETARY OF ENERGY AND AE ASSWHIPPINGS: We call him when we need a big plane that kills people."

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