The needle of the speedometer oscillate....

maca · 04-23-2003, 02:07 AM

hi all,
i had the problem with the speedometer needle.
it doesn`t show the right speed.
the problem was a cold solder joint in the platine behind the speedometer.....
greeting from europe, austria
arthur

paulfern2000 · 04-23-2003, 05:45 AM

welcome to the North American type44 forum first of all.

About the needle ...do you have a series 1 or series 2 type44?

SERIES 1 (AUDI 5000/ 100/200) 1982-1987
SERIES 2 (AUDI 100/200) 1989-1991

the series one had the cable driven speedo which would do this when the cable got week or rusted..

I have never heard about it one a series two though...

Paul

Will Ng · 04-23-2003, 08:55 AM

I also had this common annoying problem with the 100/200 type44 electronic speedometer.
The joint will eventually break again from vibration.
I replaced the 4 rigid pass-thru pins with wires.
I routed them from the inner circuit boards to the exterior and soldered them to their destinations on the outer board. Thus, the connections are now immune to vibration.
The problem hasn't returned.

maca · 04-23-2003, 10:38 AM

hi will,
yes, a realy known problem. by the way when i repared these connection i soldered also the other solderpoints of the circuit.
you tod it, the mainly problem is the vibration.
regards arthur

maca · 04-23-2003, 10:43 AM

hi paul,
my audi is a serie 2 car with a NF engine (100kW)
there the speedometer is not driven by a cable.
the problems are broklen solderpoints at the circuite. will posted it allready...
regards arthur

maca · 04-23-2003, 11:30 AM

hy paul,
i am waiting so hard for the red backlights with bigger moulds (53cm) for my audi avant.
do you just know when these parts are available?
regards arthur

200TQROCKIES · 04-23-2003, 01:09 PM

i have the same problem, i'll attemp to fix it soon, is there "what ever you do, don't ...", so that i wouldn't break something permenantely. Also never took the instrument cluster out before, any advice?
Thanks

4Driver4 · 04-23-2003, 05:08 PM

Scott Mockery's excellent site

200TQROCKIES · 04-23-2003, 09:31 PM

i talked to scott even ordered the bulbs(very nice guy), since couple of mine are don't work. He told me that with seat heaters, usually actual seat heaters go. Which makes me sad because i don't have tool to test it.

thanks for the direction.

paulfern2000 · 04-23-2003, 10:12 PM

The 53cm units will be avaialble in about two months...still allot of work to go on them...

About your speedo ...ah! the solder points...
a very week point on the type44 cars..I have this problems on my dash board as well but not related to the speedo..also a solder problem as well.

Paul

04-23-2003, 05:45 AM	#2
paulfern2000 AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 784	Howdy Arthur... welcome to the North American type44 forum first of all. About the needle ...do you have a series 1 or series 2 type44? SERIES 1 (AUDI 5000/ 100/200) 1982-1987 SERIES 2 (AUDI 100/200) 1989-1991 the series one had the cable driven speedo which would do this when the cable got week or rusted.. I have never heard about it one a series two though... Paul __________________ Paul Fernandes luxembourg-Europe 1991- Audi V8 5 speed 1991- Audi 100-C4(everyday car) 1990- Audi 100 avant sport quattro turbo 1990- Audi 100 avant quattro (in restoration)

04-23-2003, 08:55 AM	#3
Will Ng Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,090	Solder joint problem will return... I also had this common annoying problem with the 100/200 type44 electronic speedometer. The joint will eventually break again from vibration. I replaced the 4 rigid pass-thru pins with wires. I routed them from the inner circuit boards to the exterior and soldered them to their destinations on the outer board. Thus, the connections are now immune to vibration. The problem hasn't returned. __________________ R.I.P. <A HREF="http://members.fortunecity.com/willng/my_audi_200/manual/index.htm"> 88-91 Audi 100/200 Factory Service Training Manual</A>

04-23-2003, 10:38 AM	#4
maca New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 56	Re: Solder joint problem will return... hi will, yes, a realy known problem. by the way when i repared these connection i soldered also the other solderpoints of the circuit. you tod it, the mainly problem is the vibration. regards arthur

04-23-2003, 10:43 AM	#5
maca New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 56	series 2 hi paul, my audi is a serie 2 car with a NF engine (100kW) there the speedometer is not driven by a cable. the problems are broklen solderpoints at the circuite. will posted it allready... regards arthur

04-23-2003, 11:30 AM	#6
maca New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 56	red backlights... hy paul, i am waiting so hard for the red backlights with bigger moulds (53cm) for my audi avant. do you just know when these parts are available? regards arthur

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200TQROCKIES New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 64	need advice i have the same problem, i'll attemp to fix it soon, is there "what ever you do, don't ...", so that i wouldn't break something permenantely. Also never took the instrument cluster out before, any advice? Thanks

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04-23-2003, 09:31 PM	#9
200TQROCKIES New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 64	thanks i talked to scott even ordered the bulbs(very nice guy), since couple of mine are don't work. He told me that with seat heaters, usually actual seat heaters go. Which makes me sad because i don't have tool to test it. thanks for the direction.

04-23-2003, 10:12 PM	#10
paulfern2000 AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 784	Re: red backlights... The 53cm units will be avaialble in about two months...still allot of work to go on them... About your speedo ...ah! the solder points... a very week point on the type44 cars..I have this problems on my dash board as well but not related to the speedo..also a solder problem as well. Paul __________________ Paul Fernandes luxembourg-Europe 1991- Audi V8 5 speed 1991- Audi 100-C4(everyday car) 1990- Audi 100 avant sport quattro turbo 1990- Audi 100 avant quattro (in restoration)

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