So I just pulled my codes finally...2111...what's the next logical step?

Pedmaster · 02-17-2008, 08:16 AM

No start condition, when it last ran it ran great except toward the top at around 20 psi (MTM 1+) it would miss. Ignition switch is new so thats out, I could swear i don't hear the fuel pump prime though. Is that the next logical step?

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 08:32 AM

2111 (Blink Fault Code), 00513 VAG1551/2 Fault Code Number
RPM sensor (G28)
Open or short circuit, sensor malfunction
Defective sensor & cables, metal fragments on flywheel teeth
Symptom: Engine will not start, misfires, may stop running
NOTE: I (Scott) have seen this fault code occur after cranking the engine during a no start condition
in a few rare cases where there was nothing wrong with the RPM sensor

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 08:36 AM

it gets a signal from the Cam Position Sensor (CPS).

Link to FP Relay Function info in the FAQ

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 08:39 AM

Crank Position & Engine Speed Sensor Info - Function and Location Link

Pedmaster · 02-17-2008, 09:24 AM

get the engine speed 2111 code anyway?

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 09:30 AM

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 09:38 AM

Follow this three posting thread and link out to kday's data.

UrS4boy · 02-17-2008, 10:37 AM

Crank position pins have been known to just fall off. Causes engine run/start failure. Need to pull the starter to check. (On a hoist or something so you can turn the wheels with the engine in gear).

See post link below for pin photo.

Skollie's post re: location of crank position sensor pin.

02-17-2008, 08:32 AM	#2
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	2111 code info from SJM's website. 2111 (Blink Fault Code), 00513 VAG1551/2 Fault Code Number RPM sensor (G28) Open or short circuit, sensor malfunction Defective sensor & cables, metal fragments on flywheel teeth Symptom: Engine will not start, misfires, may stop running NOTE: I (Scott) have seen this fault code occur after cranking the engine during a no start condition in a few rare cases where there was nothing wrong with the RPM sensor __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

02-17-2008, 08:36 AM	#3
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	The UrS fuel pump does NOT prime with the key just "on".The ECU does not fire the J17 FP relay until it gets a signal from the Cam Position Sensor (CPS). Link to FP Relay Function info in the FAQ __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

02-17-2008, 08:39 AM	#4
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	2111 might be real. Suggest swapping in a known to be good G28. Link inside Crank Position & Engine Speed Sensor Info - Function and Location Link __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

02-17-2008, 09:24 AM	#5
Pedmaster AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 593	Why do all the forum archives say that when the engine isn't running above 28 rpms your going to get the engine speed 2111 code anyway? __________________

02-17-2008, 09:30 AM	#6
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	Because that is what the ECU is expecting. 28 RPM = approximate cranking speed during starting. __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

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02-17-2008, 09:38 AM	#7
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	There are other "theories" on this. Follow this three posting thread and link out to kday's data. __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

02-17-2008, 10:37 AM	#8
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,183	And then there is the possibility that your crank position pin went AWOL. See inside. Crank position pins have been known to just fall off. Causes engine run/start failure. Need to pull the starter to check. (On a hoist or something so you can turn the wheels with the engine in gear). See post link below for pin photo. Skollie's post re: location of crank position sensor pin. __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

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