Shopping for Allroad - any advice or maintenance issues to be aware of?

rhuTTchp · 11-30-2004, 08:09 AM

Thanks

happy allroader · 11-30-2004, 08:17 AM

rhuTTchp · 11-30-2004, 08:22 AM

...all. Currently have A6Q 2.8 with 130k and it runs like a clock!! I tend to be a bit of a Luddite and am a bit concerned about the 2.7 and the complex suspension!!

paulroad · 11-30-2004, 08:35 AM

While the 2004/05 is improved.. it still suffers from Turbo/Tranny lag. The older cars even more pronounced. Mash the gas and nothing happens, while the TIP ECU thinks about what it needs and the power for the tubo has to spool up. Individually these things are OK and you can compensate.. but together.. its a bit of a retraining exersize on how to drive.

This problem is eliminated..(almost) with the 4.2 and its TIP. The 2.7T with a stick is the way to go.. but your wife has to be thought of.

SeeksAR · 11-30-2004, 08:50 AM

The tip transmission delay is annoying. It's a design flaw in my opinion. Search the forum for "tip delay" which happens from very low speed accelerations. It happens when you are in automatic mode (not manual tip mode).

No problems on the suspension and pneumatic ride height adjustment system.

No powertrain or electric gremlins. Solid engine and an excellent ride.

The only QUALITY/RELIABILITY problems I've found (in our model year '04) are as follows:

1) The interior carpeted trim panel on the lift gate pops out after a couple of good slams. The friction fasteners don't hold it in well enough. Have to keep pushing the trim in. Shut the gate a few times and look near the corners for separation of the panel from the steel.

2) Radio volume **** rotates about 20 degrees before having any effect. I have the stock Symphony2 radio/6cd system that comes with the premium package. It's not the special Bose radio.

3) Paint on interior handles of the rear doors is bubbling and peeling. The handles are coated with some type of velvety paint that makes them feel rich when new. But after the paint wears away, there's harder plastic underneath.

All the above 3 items will be addressed at next service visit.

dan farmer · 11-30-2004, 08:56 AM

That's why I bought an extended warranty. I'd look closely at Certified vehicles from the dealer. Or, if you buy privately, you can get the Audi-backed warranty from JM&A at most dealers. The car must be still in original factory warranty to qualify. GE Financial is another good source for aftermarket warranties. Remember, the prices are *highly* negociable.

-df

TARH2O · 11-30-2004, 09:46 AM

in the long run I don't think it will be any more expensive than a standard shock/strut.

paulroad · 11-30-2004, 09:53 AM

Its always the symphony II head unit.(panasonic I think) The bose refers to teh speakers, sub woof and amp in the rear.

NYBUILDER1 · 11-30-2004, 04:30 PM

In my opinion, the 4.2 is a must. The lag on the 2.7 with the tip was unbearable. My 2005 4.2 was delivered with defective rotors, and they foregot to remove the protective plastic film from the rear skid plate, after the first car wash it delaminated and melted on th exhaust. Those are the only issues to be aware of.

rhuTTchp · 11-30-2004, 06:55 PM

11-30-2004, 08:17 AM	#2
happy allroader AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 826	Check for warped brake rotors, otherwise little to worry about. Decide 2.7T (6sp or Tip) or 4.2 Tip. __________________ http://forums.audiworld.com/picture....ctureid=134225

11-30-2004, 08:22 AM	#3
rhuTTchp AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 440	Thanks.....looking for 2.7 with Tip for wifey. This will be our 4th Audi Wagon.....Loved them..... ...all. Currently have A6Q 2.8 with 130k and it runs like a clock!! I tend to be a bit of a Luddite and am a bit concerned about the 2.7 and the complex suspension!!

11-30-2004, 08:35 AM	#4
paulroad AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 18,425	The only caution is the 2.7T with the TIP tranny. While the 2004/05 is improved.. it still suffers from Turbo/Tranny lag. The older cars even more pronounced. Mash the gas and nothing happens, while the TIP ECU thinks about what it needs and the power for the tubo has to spool up. Individually these things are OK and you can compensate.. but together.. its a bit of a retraining exersize on how to drive. This problem is eliminated..(almost) with the 4.2 and its TIP. The 2.7T with a stick is the way to go.. but your wife has to be thought of. __________________ 4/23/11: S4 Premium Plus, S'Tronic, Nav, Titanium body Original Ride: • Bought New May 2003 allroad 2.7t 6 Speed • Sold @ 217,856 miles on April 23, 2011 -Mod/Repair Log 2400 Miles 5/28/11 New Conti Extreme DWS A/S Tires--smooths out the ride OEM Dipstick--Need to see and smell the oil OEM Rubber Mats--Look better than Stock Carpet and last longer

11-30-2004, 08:50 AM	#5
SeeksAR AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 674	I'm very happy with MY2004 allroad 2.7Tip.. The tip transmission delay is annoying. It's a design flaw in my opinion. Search the forum for "tip delay" which happens from very low speed accelerations. It happens when you are in automatic mode (not manual tip mode). No problems on the suspension and pneumatic ride height adjustment system. No powertrain or electric gremlins. Solid engine and an excellent ride. The only QUALITY/RELIABILITY problems I've found (in our model year '04) are as follows: 1) The interior carpeted trim panel on the lift gate pops out after a couple of good slams. The friction fasteners don't hold it in well enough. Have to keep pushing the trim in. Shut the gate a few times and look near the corners for separation of the panel from the steel. 2) Radio volume **** rotates about 20 degrees before having any effect. I have the stock Symphony2 radio/6cd system that comes with the premium package. It's not the special Bose radio. 3) Paint on interior handles of the rear doors is bubbling and peeling. The handles are coated with some type of velvety paint that makes them feel rich when new. But after the paint wears away, there's harder plastic underneath. All the above 3 items will be addressed at next service visit. __________________ '04 2.7Tip allroad w/Prem & Cold. 70Kmiles

11-30-2004, 08:56 AM	#6
dan farmer Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 4,491	suspension worries me. too That's why I bought an extended warranty. I'd look closely at Certified vehicles from the dealer. Or, if you buy privately, you can get the Audi-backed warranty from JM&A at most dealers. The car must be still in original factory warranty to qualify. GE Financial is another good source for aftermarket warranties. Remember, the prices are highly negociable. -df __________________

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11-30-2004, 09:46 AM	#7
TARH2O AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 6,895	don't worry about the suspension. its being used on the old A6 avants and new A8L in the long run I don't think it will be any more expensive than a standard shock/strut. __________________ Official AudiWorld BRAINTRUST #92 Official AudiWorld AXIS OF EVIL #2 2003 Audi A6Q 2.7T Ming Blue 2001 Audi allroad Atlas

11-30-2004, 09:53 AM	#8
paulroad AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 18,425	FYI.. the radio is the same w/ or without Bose. Its always the symphony II head unit.(panasonic I think) The bose refers to teh speakers, sub woof and amp in the rear. __________________ 4/23/11: S4 Premium Plus, S'Tronic, Nav, Titanium body Original Ride: • Bought New May 2003 allroad 2.7t 6 Speed • Sold @ 217,856 miles on April 23, 2011 -Mod/Repair Log 2400 Miles 5/28/11 New Conti Extreme DWS A/S Tires--smooths out the ride OEM Dipstick--Need to see and smell the oil OEM Rubber Mats--Look better than Stock Carpet and last longer

11-30-2004, 04:30 PM	#9
NYBUILDER1 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 51	Re: Shopping for Allroad - any advice or maintenance issues to be aware of? In my opinion, the 4.2 is a must. The lag on the 2.7 with the tip was unbearable. My 2005 4.2 was delivered with defective rotors, and they foregot to remove the protective plastic film from the rear skid plate, after the first car wash it delaminated and melted on th exhaust. Those are the only issues to be aware of.

11-30-2004, 06:55 PM	#10
rhuTTchp AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 440	is the 2.7 tip lag problem from start off or accelerating from a roll?

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