Phatbox, Audi Concert, and scanning through songs

dcline · 07-13-2005, 04:32 AM

Can it do this? With my CD changer, if I held down the track skip button, it would scan through the song instead of skipping to the next track. Now that I have the Phatbox installed (yay!), it seems my only option is skipping from one file to the next.

If I AM supposed to be able to scan through songs, do I possibly have the wrong firmware? When I initially installed it, when I got to the step of telling it which head unit I have, skipping through the various options would explicitely say which head unit it was "Audi Concert, Audi Symphony", etc. I only played with it enough to know it worked (didn't try doing a fast scan through a song). Then I took the DMS in my house, put some music on it, and upgraded the firmware using the tool built in to the music manager. I specifically selected Audi firmware (went from 5.xx to 7.xx), and the release notes mentioned that it was now compatible with many more Audi head end units. When I put it back in my car, it had to be re-configured since the firmware had been upgraded. But it no longer said "Audi Concert", it just said "radio a, radio b", etc. Since the Concert was option 7 before, I put it back on option 7 again (which happens to be radio "c").

So, is scanning a feature that isn't available on the Phatbox with my head unit, or is either my firmware or head unit selection wrong?

Thanks!

dcline · 07-13-2005, 09:55 AM

Some web searching has revealed that my Concert (I) radio is considered to be a radio type "N". So the install documents that came with the radio that say to skip to track 7 for the Concert radio are no long correct with the newer firmware. Seeking within a song now works.

There is one thing that still doesn't seem to work correctly. My understanding is I should be able to press the "scan" button to hear the data on the current track. Pressing scan just tells me what playlist I'm in, even if I'm not in playlist mode. In fact, I haven't even set up any playlists yet, so never use that mode, but no matter what mode I'm in, pressing scan always returns: "Playlist: Audible" (I assume there is an Audible playlist preinstalled).

Any Ideas?

TeddyBGame · 07-13-2005, 12:06 PM

...reading the manual or pocket card will help too.

dcline · 07-13-2005, 12:18 PM

Thanks - yes, I was doing that, the problem was I had it configured for the wrong head unit. The unit shipped with firmware 5.2, and the installation instructions said to go into the configuration mode and skip to track 7, which was the Audi Concert. Once I upgraded the firmware, the voice prompts no longer stated the head units by name, so I made the assumption that it would have been in the same spot as before (track 7). That was an incorrect assumption... it's not considered a "radio N", which is something much higher than track 7.

The remaining issue is still there, however. I understand that I'm supposed to be able to press the "scan" button to hear the track info. Regardless of what mode I'm in, however, pressing the scan button always returns "playlist: Audible". I haven't even been using playlist mode. Are you getting the track name, etc., when you press scan during track play?

TeddyBGame · 07-13-2005, 01:28 PM

...although..I have a Nav+...so I don't have a scan button.

YOu should look into Phatvoice option...see my sig..etc...etc.

dcline · 07-15-2005, 09:05 AM

I had a few files that woudln't play (strangely, all from the same album). So I did a "DMS repair" in music manager: The files that wouldn't play will now play, and now I'm getting the proper info with the scan button. Of course, as you say, I'm not getting track info (I may look in to PhatVoice to get that), but I'm at least getting artist, genre, album, and CORRECT playlist info, instead of ONLY incorrect playlist info)

Thanks for the help!

TeddyBGame · 07-15-2005, 09:31 AM

07-13-2005, 09:55 AM	#2
dcline New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Problem fixed, but new question.... Some web searching has revealed that my Concert (I) radio is considered to be a radio type "N". So the install documents that came with the radio that say to skip to track 7 for the Concert radio are no long correct with the newer firmware. Seeking within a song now works. There is one thing that still doesn't seem to work correctly. My understanding is I should be able to press the "scan" button to hear the data on the current track. Pressing scan just tells me what playlist I'm in, even if I'm not in playlist mode. In fact, I haven't even set up any playlists yet, so never use that mode, but no matter what mode I'm in, pressing scan always returns: "Playlist: Audible" (I assume there is an Audible playlist preinstalled). Any Ideas?

07-13-2005, 12:06 PM	#3
TeddyBGame AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,788	...5 second rule: Wait for the song to play 5 seconds first...then you can scan through. ...reading the manual or pocket card will help too. __________________ TeddyBGame - C5 Avant - "the Beast" (Ha!!) - 2005 Chrysler Pacifica Touring (Nav, Sirius, Bluetooth, Xenon, TPMS, ParkSense, DVD Changer - basically loaded) - 2003 Vespa ET2 (modified exhaust and carb -- so I can max out at 45MPH) - John Deere Gator (4x2) for the boy As of November 2006: Accessory Add-ons: (Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.) 1) OEM winter floor mats 2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net 3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight 4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box Upgrades: (Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.) 1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant) http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml 2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory) 3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com) 4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button 5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors 6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim 7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings 8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required) 9) ? 10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input 11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E 12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield 13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E) 14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!! 15) ? 16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires) 17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips 18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM) 19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails 20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E 21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme 22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior) 23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter) 24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan) 25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!) 26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control 27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module Coming soon: - rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel MODifications: (Definition: Any permenant change to a part or component of your car that you cannot reverse) 1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter 2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module. 3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip 4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E 5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!) 6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE 7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above) 8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening. RNS-E for C5 A6/S6/allroad/RS6 - your quest starts here - (regularly updated) <a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/607331.phtml">OEM submarine fin installed on

07-13-2005, 12:18 PM	#4
dcline New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Re: ...5 second rule: Wait for the song to play 5 seconds first...then you can scan through. Thanks - yes, I was doing that, the problem was I had it configured for the wrong head unit. The unit shipped with firmware 5.2, and the installation instructions said to go into the configuration mode and skip to track 7, which was the Audi Concert. Once I upgraded the firmware, the voice prompts no longer stated the head units by name, so I made the assumption that it would have been in the same spot as before (track 7). That was an incorrect assumption... it's not considered a "radio N", which is something much higher than track 7. The remaining issue is still there, however. I understand that I'm supposed to be able to press the "scan" button to hear the track info. Regardless of what mode I'm in, however, pressing the scan button always returns "playlist: Audible". I haven't even been using playlist mode. Are you getting the track name, etc., when you press scan during track play?

07-13-2005, 01:28 PM	#5
TeddyBGame AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,788	won't announce track name...only artist/playlist/genre name... ...although..I have a Nav+...so I don't have a scan button. YOu should look into Phatvoice option...see my sig..etc...etc. __________________ TeddyBGame - C5 Avant - "the Beast" (Ha!!) - 2005 Chrysler Pacifica Touring (Nav, Sirius, Bluetooth, Xenon, TPMS, ParkSense, DVD Changer - basically loaded) - 2003 Vespa ET2 (modified exhaust and carb -- so I can max out at 45MPH) - John Deere Gator (4x2) for the boy As of November 2006: Accessory Add-ons: (Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.) 1) OEM winter floor mats 2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net 3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight 4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box Upgrades: (Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.) 1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant) http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml 2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory) 3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com) 4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button 5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors 6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim 7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings 8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required) 9) ? 10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input 11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E 12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield 13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E) 14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!! 15) ? 16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires) 17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips 18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM) 19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails 20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E 21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme 22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior) 23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter) 24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan) 25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!) 26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control 27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module Coming soon: - rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel MODifications: (Definition: Any permenant change to a part or component of your car that you cannot reverse) 1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter 2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module. 3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip 4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E 5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!) 6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE 7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above) 8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening. RNS-E for C5 A6/S6/allroad/RS6 - your quest starts here - (regularly updated) <a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/607331.phtml">OEM submarine fin installed on

07-15-2005, 09:05 AM	#6
dcline New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Turned out to be some kind of corruption... I had a few files that woudln't play (strangely, all from the same album). So I did a "DMS repair" in music manager: The files that wouldn't play will now play, and now I'm getting the proper info with the scan button. Of course, as you say, I'm not getting track info (I may look in to PhatVoice to get that), but I'm at least getting artist, genre, album, and CORRECT playlist info, instead of ONLY incorrect playlist info) Thanks for the help!

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07-15-2005, 09:31 AM	#7
TeddyBGame AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,788	cool. See www.myphatbox.com ...as the new forum. Enjoy!!! __________________ TeddyBGame - C5 Avant - "the Beast" (Ha!!) - 2005 Chrysler Pacifica Touring (Nav, Sirius, Bluetooth, Xenon, TPMS, ParkSense, DVD Changer - basically loaded) - 2003 Vespa ET2 (modified exhaust and carb -- so I can max out at 45MPH) - John Deere Gator (4x2) for the boy As of November 2006: Accessory Add-ons: (Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.) 1) OEM winter floor mats 2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net 3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight 4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box Upgrades: (Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.) 1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant) http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml 2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory) 3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com) 4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button 5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors 6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim 7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings 8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required) 9) ? 10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input 11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E 12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield 13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E) 14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!! 15) ? 16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires) 17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips 18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM) 19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails 20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E 21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme 22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior) 23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter) 24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan) 25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!) 26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control 27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module Coming soon: - rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel MODifications: (Definition: Any permenant change to a part or component of your car that you cannot reverse) 1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter 2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module. 3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip 4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E 5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!) 6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE 7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above) 8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening. RNS-E for C5 A6/S6/allroad/RS6 - your quest starts here - (regularly updated) <a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/607331.phtml">OEM submarine fin installed on

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