My feedback on ohbw.

Perpetual Novice · 10-09-2008, 01:05 PM

I'm the first to admit I don't know the whole story on ohbw's ban. I do know he stepped over the line once and received a temp suspension for that, and justly in my mind. After that though, things started going sideways. a chosen few in AWP seemed to follow him from post to post, goading him, trying to get him to make another threat.

I've seen similar goading, threatening exchanges in AWP, I've been in them. When it happened with me, Kris stepped in, seemingly impartially, and the abuse stopped. I'm in your debt there.

Mods never like to explain why they banned someone. I've been a mod elsewhere, I get that. Impartially moderating a forum like AWP can't be easy. But the next time someone steps over the line, that might be a good time for the mod team to remind us all where that line lies.

tozoM8 · 10-09-2008, 03:55 PM

He must have had a bad day when he started that post. He definitely did not deserve the ban and the rest of the D2 forum miss him greatly.
FREE OHBW!!! I am sure he will promise not to post on AWP anymore

Reggie · 10-09-2008, 06:15 PM

and I know I have had those kind of days too.

And probably on the edge with Neil since he does not like my sig

tozoM8 · 10-09-2008, 06:51 PM

The liberal got banned permanently.

Gumbo · 10-09-2008, 09:06 PM

but I will say that Kris and Jason basically had no choice after his posts and emails. The guy, no matter how nice he was on D2A8, was out of control.

Gumbo · 10-09-2008, 09:07 PM

And there were other circumstances involved than most saw.

diogeniS8 · 10-10-2008, 05:54 AM

In that case there should be one for Conservatives and one for liberals.... its like having D2 A8 and B6 S4 forums.
I trully think that OHBW is a nice guy and that the Ban should be lifted. As Tozo said we are sure he will not post again in the politics forum.

Reggie · 10-10-2008, 08:45 AM

Got to have an open mind and a sense of humor

Gumbo · 10-10-2008, 09:17 AM

Some of the guys there make me wonder about their sanity, but they still keep it under the TOU, so there's no issues.

Always Overcharged · 10-10-2008, 11:29 PM

be obliged to explain what the reason was for such serious action and should also allow the member the dignity of reply before the ban takes affect.
As an observer and regular contributer to the D2 forum it appears that the moderator has overreacted and behaved in a knee jerk manner that makes him look both unfair and possibly bias.
Suggest that an open letter from the moderator may help to explain his actions and this should be balanced by OBHW being allowed to post a retort.
Then all will at least be democratic and other members "who are the forum" can make an educated decision and decide for themselves who is out of line.
Brian is a great contributer with clearly a very interesting and intelligent view of the world and will be sorely missed on the D2 forum.
We dont have to agree with what he says but we should allow him to express it or we should go live in China
Come on moderator dont screw this up further or members will vote with their feet.

10-09-2008, 03:55 PM	#2
tozoM8 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,559	I personally know ohbw and he is the nicest guy ever. He must have had a bad day when he started that post. He definitely did not deserve the ban and the rest of the D2 forum miss him greatly. FREE OHBW!!! I am sure he will promise not to post on AWP anymore __________________ '05 Porsche Cayenne Turbo titanium on black '01black on black allroad 2.7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '01 black on black twin turbo S8 6 speed manual(euro TDI 6th gear), RNS-E, Passport SRX SOLD

10-09-2008, 06:15 PM	#3
Reggie AudiWorld Expert 2011 Audi Q5 My Garage Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Fort Collins Colorado Posts: 30,624	what did the rest of us miss? and I know I have had those kind of days too. And probably on the edge with Neil since he does not like my sig __________________

10-09-2008, 06:51 PM	#4
tozoM8 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,559	A liberal and a conservative got into a heated conversation on AWP. Can you believe it? The liberal got banned permanently. __________________ '05 Porsche Cayenne Turbo titanium on black '01black on black allroad 2.7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '01 black on black twin turbo S8 6 speed manual(euro TDI 6th gear), RNS-E, Passport SRX SOLD

10-09-2008, 09:06 PM	#5
Gumbo AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 16,515	I'm not going to get into it in detail, since it wasn't my decision to ban him... but I will say that Kris and Jason basically had no choice after his posts and emails. The guy, no matter how nice he was on D2A8, was out of control. __________________

10-09-2008, 09:07 PM	#6
Gumbo AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 16,515	It wasn't just one post and one day. And there were other circumstances involved than most saw. __________________

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10-10-2008, 05:54 AM	#7
diogeniS8 AudiWorld Senior Member 2001 Audi S8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 751	I am still wondering why AW has a forum for politics........ In that case there should be one for Conservatives and one for liberals.... its like having D2 A8 and B6 S4 forums. I trully think that OHBW is a nice guy and that the Ban should be lifted. As Tozo said we are sure he will not post again in the politics forum.

10-10-2008, 08:45 AM	#8
Reggie AudiWorld Expert 2011 Audi Q5 My Garage Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Fort Collins Colorado Posts: 30,624	too bad - it's great to be passionate about ones candidate but Got to have an open mind and a sense of humor __________________

10-10-2008, 09:17 AM	#9
Gumbo AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 16,515	Agreed. Some of the guys there make me wonder about their sanity, but they still keep it under the TOU, so there's no issues. __________________

10-10-2008, 11:29 PM	#10
Always Overcharged AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,666	Sorry but I believe that if someone is banned the moderator should be obliged to explain what the reason was for such serious action and should also allow the member the dignity of reply before the ban takes affect. As an observer and regular contributer to the D2 forum it appears that the moderator has overreacted and behaved in a knee jerk manner that makes him look both unfair and possibly bias. Suggest that an open letter from the moderator may help to explain his actions and this should be balanced by OBHW being allowed to post a retort. Then all will at least be democratic and other members "who are the forum" can make an educated decision and decide for themselves who is out of line. Brian is a great contributer with clearly a very interesting and intelligent view of the world and will be sorely missed on the D2 forum. We dont have to agree with what he says but we should allow him to express it or we should go live in China Come on moderator dont screw this up further or members will vote with their feet. __________________

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