Should I use this tranny filter? Blau vs OEM

brittcrowell · 05-30-2006, 02:53 PM

Ok I'm trying to get the tranny fluid changed on my '97 A8Q before my next long trip ( I swear I'll get to those videos when I get back!). I drained it last night, and removed the pan today.
Got ready to put in the new filter and it looks a bit different than the original one. On the new one the pickup only sticks down about 1/4" and the original one sticks down about 1". Sure looks like I'm asking to run the pump dry more easily. I'm sure I'm just being a bit ****, but what do you guys think?

Britt

PaulW · 05-30-2006, 03:26 PM

It's not the right one....Tozo will chime in I'm sure....I would see if the dealer has one and just go with that.

brittcrowell · 05-30-2006, 04:01 PM

MP4.2+6.0 · 05-30-2006, 04:06 PM

I think you have one filter turned 180 degrees from the other based on where the "out" side of the flow is (underneath in your picture). Obviously there are differences in the suction side depth as well as its location--compare it to where the "out" flow is side to side.

If you have the wrong filter, check your gasket too. One time I was sent a set from another place that was not for the right ZF tranny, and the gasket was wrong too--different pan shape. I noticed with the last blau set I bought, which was correct, that they seem to have sourced the filter separate from the gasket, so maybe they just got the filter wrong.

Make sure you have and use the o ring for the filter too.

PaulW · 05-30-2006, 04:09 PM

After his 97 tranny, he put in a 2000 tranny, and I think it had the filter you show there.....

If yours is a 97, it could have one of three type trannies, it's listed on audipages.com.....you need to get the one for your tranny.

It won't work and damage would most likely occur.

MP4.2+6.0 · 05-30-2006, 04:10 PM

For what it's worth, the one you say came out of your car looks like the one in my A6 4.2 that also uses the same 5HP24A tranny. And, blau sent me one that looks the same as the one I pulled in every dimension--suction height and location, general shape, thickness, bolt hole location, o ring/seal type, etc.

tozoM8 · 05-30-2006, 04:18 PM

This is what you need.

tozoM8 · 05-30-2006, 04:22 PM

the pickup pipe length changed over the years. Newer A8 has a 1/2" shorter pickup pipe.

brittcrowell · 05-30-2006, 04:49 PM

tozoM8 · 05-30-2006, 05:17 PM

Just joking.

05-30-2006, 03:26 PM	#2
PaulW AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18,202	DO NOT put it in It's not the right one....Tozo will chime in I'm sure....I would see if the dealer has one and just go with that. __________________ 07 S8

05-30-2006, 04:01 PM	#3
brittcrowell AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 356	So did they just send the wrong one or what? (I could come up with more colorfull whats) __________________ 1997 A8 Quattro hot/cold 171,375 miles Tranny Dead! :-( Broken arm rest Broken cruise control (its a moot point now!) 2001 A8L Pearl White hot/cold Boss's Car (God She's Hot!) 87,774 miles

05-30-2006, 04:06 PM	#4
MP4.2+6.0 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,951	Second--don't use. Is pan gasket wrong too??? I think you have one filter turned 180 degrees from the other based on where the "out" side of the flow is (underneath in your picture). Obviously there are differences in the suction side depth as well as its location--compare it to where the "out" flow is side to side. If you have the wrong filter, check your gasket too. One time I was sent a set from another place that was not for the right ZF tranny, and the gasket was wrong too--different pan shape. I noticed with the last blau set I bought, which was correct, that they seem to have sourced the filter separate from the gasket, so maybe they just got the filter wrong. Make sure you have and use the o ring for the filter too. __________________ Current #1: '06 D3 A8L W12 brilliant black w/ amaretto; 4 seat setup, CPO; modestly VAG COM lowered, H&R 20mm rear and 12mm front DRs with 275/35 on OEM polished + forged 20's; S8 sway bars (see: rear bar and gen'l D3 bar info and front bar); tweaked 385mm front factory brake mod and matching rear brake mod; matching C6 A6 back headrests (better rear view: headrest tweak); owner installed AMI retrofit with part number details here; uprated fogs; other VAG COM tweaking to suit. Current #2: C5 '00 A6 4.2 ming blue w/ beige, new off showroom floor; Lemiwinks + VAG COM tweaks; smoked tails; RS 6 OEM 18's; RNS-D (CD) Navi On order: 2013 Q5 2.0T hybrid; Scuba blue w/ chestnut sport interior; Euro delivery approx. 7/2013 Prior (each modded): '96 C4 A6 2.8Q, still w/ family; '85 C3 5000S 5 sp FWD; '73 C1 100LS helpful cross reference to a C6 post with MMI and other TSB's that also cover D3 A8's.

05-30-2006, 04:09 PM	#5
PaulW AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18,202	I think Tozo has posted pictures before After his 97 tranny, he put in a 2000 tranny, and I think it had the filter you show there..... If yours is a 97, it could have one of three type trannies, it's listed on audipages.com.....you need to get the one for your tranny. It won't work and damage would most likely occur. __________________ 07 S8

05-30-2006, 04:10 PM	#6
MP4.2+6.0 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,951	Wrong one... For what it's worth, the one you say came out of your car looks like the one in my A6 4.2 that also uses the same 5HP24A tranny. And, blau sent me one that looks the same as the one I pulled in every dimension--suction height and location, general shape, thickness, bolt hole location, o ring/seal type, etc. __________________ Current #1: '06 D3 A8L W12 brilliant black w/ amaretto; 4 seat setup, CPO; modestly VAG COM lowered, H&R 20mm rear and 12mm front DRs with 275/35 on OEM polished + forged 20's; S8 sway bars (see: rear bar and gen'l D3 bar info and front bar); tweaked 385mm front factory brake mod and matching rear brake mod; matching C6 A6 back headrests (better rear view: headrest tweak); owner installed AMI retrofit with part number details here; uprated fogs; other VAG COM tweaking to suit. Current #2: C5 '00 A6 4.2 ming blue w/ beige, new off showroom floor; Lemiwinks + VAG COM tweaks; smoked tails; RS 6 OEM 18's; RNS-D (CD) Navi On order: 2013 Q5 2.0T hybrid; Scuba blue w/ chestnut sport interior; Euro delivery approx. 7/2013 Prior (each modded): '96 C4 A6 2.8Q, still w/ family; '85 C3 5000S 5 sp FWD; '73 C1 100LS helpful cross reference to a C6 post with MMI and other TSB's that also cover D3 A8's.

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05-30-2006, 04:18 PM	#7
tozoM8 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,559	That looks suspicious. This is what you need. __________________ '05 Porsche Cayenne Turbo titanium on black '01black on black allroad 2.7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '01 black on black twin turbo S8 6 speed manual(euro TDI 6th gear), RNS-E, Passport SRX SOLD

05-30-2006, 04:22 PM	#8
tozoM8 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,559	Make sure you tell them the tranny code. Even if it looks like this, the pickup pipe length changed over the years. Newer A8 has a 1/2" shorter pickup pipe. __________________ '05 Porsche Cayenne Turbo titanium on black '01black on black allroad 2.7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '01 black on black twin turbo S8 6 speed manual(euro TDI 6th gear), RNS-E, Passport SRX SOLD

05-30-2006, 04:49 PM	#9
brittcrowell AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 356	gasket is correct....and they are turned 180 degrees in the photo __________________ 1997 A8 Quattro hot/cold 171,375 miles Tranny Dead! :-( Broken arm rest Broken cruise control (its a moot point now!) 2001 A8L Pearl White hot/cold Boss's Car (God She's Hot!) 87,774 miles

05-30-2006, 05:17 PM	#10
tozoM8 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,559	It's not going to fit like that. Just joking. __________________ '05 Porsche Cayenne Turbo titanium on black '01black on black allroad 2.7T ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '01 black on black twin turbo S8 6 speed manual(euro TDI 6th gear), RNS-E, Passport SRX SOLD

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