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B5 Tiptronic Transmission Filter Change and Flush write-up
11-13-2007, 03:26 PM
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B5 Tiptronic Transmission Filter Change and Flush write-up
This procedure describes the steps I used to change the transmission fluid in a B5 quattro Tiptronic transmission. If you choose to follow this, I am not responsible if you damage your car in any way...
You will need the following to complete the job:
- 7 liters of Audi transmission fluid. I used the Pentosin brand which has the same part number and its cheaper, about $12 a bottle.
- 1 Auto trans Filter and gasket, about $30.
- VAG-COM-not totally necessary but very helpful!!
- 17mm Hex-fill plug
- 8mm Hex-drain plug
- T-27-pan bolts
- T-45-filter bolts
- 6 feet of 3/4inch hose to fill the pan with
- Marine outboard pump, $6 at West Marine. The pump is optional. You could just use a funnel and gravity feed the fluid, but for 6 bucks, you can be on the ground and see what's happening.
Drain Procedure
1. Raise the car up on Jack stands. Try to get it as level as possible.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/fileIseb/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1797.jpg">
2. With the engine off, open the fill plug (17mm Hex). Make sure you have a drain pan underneath because fluid will drain out.
3. Next, open drain plug (8mm Hex) and let fluid drain.
4. Remove transmission pan bolts (T-27). Remove pan and clean thoroughly. I used brake cleaner. Be sure to remove and clean the magnets in the bottom of the pan. They will have "wear metals" stuck to them. This is normal unless your magnets look like a giant Porcupine
<img src="http://images31.fotki.com/v1055/fileqSK0/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1793.jpg">
5. Remove filter bolts (T-45) and remove old filter.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/fileZBpJ/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1794.jpg">
6. Let car sit overnight and drain. I did this because you want to fill the transmission when it's at ambient temperature. Not much fluid drained overnight. So if you car has been sitting and is totally cold, you don't have to wait overnight.
7. Install new filter (54 inch-lbs / 6 N-m).
8. Install clean transmission pan. Tighten in a star pattern (84 in-lbs / 10 Nm). Before mounting the pan, I decided to fix my oil fill hose. Some people have created an end piece out of copper tubing and installed the hose after mounting the pan. I didn't want to risk anything getting stuck. So this time it was easy for me to pull out!
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/file6eEQ/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1800.jpg">
9. install drain plug (30 ft-lbs / 40 Nm)
Fill Procedure
1. With car off, pump fluid until it overflows from standpipe. I used the marine outboard pump. I just cut off the metal screw piece on the end and stuck it into the 3/4hose. I also used an empty and cleaned gallon container from a bottle of distilled water. I poured about 3.5 liters of fresh trans fluid into the container so I wouldn't have to keep changing bottles during the fill process.
<img src="http://images32.fotki.com/v1044/fileTalW/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1798.jpg">
2. Start car, wait 30 seconds, pump more fluid until it overflows. When the engine is running, the transmission pump draws fluid up into all the gears. That's why when you initially opened the fill plug, fluid drains out.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/file631R/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1801.jpg">
3. Have someone run through all gears for 30 seconds each with foot on the brake. Go through R,N,D,4,3,2 for 30 seconds each. Keep pumping fluid so there is a slight overflow at all times. Let the car run for 2 minutes, repeat the process and keep pumping fluid!
4. After engine has been running for 15 minutes, use a VAG and measure ATF Temp in Group 4 under measuring blocks in the transmission module. ATF fluid temp should be around 30-45deg C. If you don't have a VAG-COM, I suppose you could just wait for 15 minutes. I waited until the VAG read the fluid temp at 38deg C.
5. With engine still running, pump additional fluid until you see some overflow and then Install fill plug (59 ft-lbs / 80 Nm). It is important for the engine to be running while you install the fill plug. If you turn the engine off, all the fluid that was sucked up will drain out and you will then have a transmission that is under filled.
6. Test drive and enjoy prolonged Tip life and smooth shifts!
Feel free to email me with questions/comments about the job!
You will need the following to complete the job:
- 7 liters of Audi transmission fluid. I used the Pentosin brand which has the same part number and its cheaper, about $12 a bottle.
- 1 Auto trans Filter and gasket, about $30.
- VAG-COM-not totally necessary but very helpful!!
- 17mm Hex-fill plug
- 8mm Hex-drain plug
- T-27-pan bolts
- T-45-filter bolts
- 6 feet of 3/4inch hose to fill the pan with
- Marine outboard pump, $6 at West Marine. The pump is optional. You could just use a funnel and gravity feed the fluid, but for 6 bucks, you can be on the ground and see what's happening.
Drain Procedure
1. Raise the car up on Jack stands. Try to get it as level as possible.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/fileIseb/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1797.jpg">
2. With the engine off, open the fill plug (17mm Hex). Make sure you have a drain pan underneath because fluid will drain out.
3. Next, open drain plug (8mm Hex) and let fluid drain.
4. Remove transmission pan bolts (T-27). Remove pan and clean thoroughly. I used brake cleaner. Be sure to remove and clean the magnets in the bottom of the pan. They will have "wear metals" stuck to them. This is normal unless your magnets look like a giant Porcupine
<img src="http://images31.fotki.com/v1055/fileqSK0/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1793.jpg">
5. Remove filter bolts (T-45) and remove old filter.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/fileZBpJ/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1794.jpg">
6. Let car sit overnight and drain. I did this because you want to fill the transmission when it's at ambient temperature. Not much fluid drained overnight. So if you car has been sitting and is totally cold, you don't have to wait overnight.
7. Install new filter (54 inch-lbs / 6 N-m).
8. Install clean transmission pan. Tighten in a star pattern (84 in-lbs / 10 Nm). Before mounting the pan, I decided to fix my oil fill hose. Some people have created an end piece out of copper tubing and installed the hose after mounting the pan. I didn't want to risk anything getting stuck. So this time it was easy for me to pull out!
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/file6eEQ/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1800.jpg">
9. install drain plug (30 ft-lbs / 40 Nm)
Fill Procedure
1. With car off, pump fluid until it overflows from standpipe. I used the marine outboard pump. I just cut off the metal screw piece on the end and stuck it into the 3/4hose. I also used an empty and cleaned gallon container from a bottle of distilled water. I poured about 3.5 liters of fresh trans fluid into the container so I wouldn't have to keep changing bottles during the fill process.
<img src="http://images32.fotki.com/v1044/fileTalW/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1798.jpg">
2. Start car, wait 30 seconds, pump more fluid until it overflows. When the engine is running, the transmission pump draws fluid up into all the gears. That's why when you initially opened the fill plug, fluid drains out.
<img src="http://images30.fotki.com/v1038/file631R/9bb73/1/1251546/5603517/DCP_1801.jpg">
3. Have someone run through all gears for 30 seconds each with foot on the brake. Go through R,N,D,4,3,2 for 30 seconds each. Keep pumping fluid so there is a slight overflow at all times. Let the car run for 2 minutes, repeat the process and keep pumping fluid!
4. After engine has been running for 15 minutes, use a VAG and measure ATF Temp in Group 4 under measuring blocks in the transmission module. ATF fluid temp should be around 30-45deg C. If you don't have a VAG-COM, I suppose you could just wait for 15 minutes. I waited until the VAG read the fluid temp at 38deg C.
5. With engine still running, pump additional fluid until you see some overflow and then Install fill plug (59 ft-lbs / 80 Nm). It is important for the engine to be running while you install the fill plug. If you turn the engine off, all the fluid that was sucked up will drain out and you will then have a transmission that is under filled.
6. Test drive and enjoy prolonged Tip life and smooth shifts!
Feel free to email me with questions/comments about the job!
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ryvrgc (08-19-2023)
11-13-2007, 03:47 PM
#4
No worky. Copy the actual thread and put it there, as opposed to linking to this thread. -> more
When I click on the link (to the B5 forum page) that you posted it says I cannot access the thread ("this message does not belong to you"). Either way would be better to have the actual writeup there. Simple 'edit' original thread, copy, and paste it all would solve the problem. Great writeup though!
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