APR Tune
#1
APR Tune
I find it interesting that APR advertises on the Audi Club North America forums yet Audi won't necessarily honor warranty claims on tuned cars if the tune caused the issue.
http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthr...-4.0-TFSI-ECUs!
http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthr...-4.0-TFSI-ECUs!
#2
AudiWorld Super User
While ACNA may have a partnership with Audi of America (i.e. the ACNA new car discount), they are an independently owned organization. Fourtitude is also independently owned (not by ACNA or Audi) and and uses sponsors and partnerships just like AudiWorld and other auto web forums.
In any case, my understanding is some ECU vendors (i.e. Stasis) offer their own warranty to cover problems caused by their products that Audi won't cover under the factory warranty. Also note that the Audi factory warranty is not voided by any mods made other than if Audi can show that a problem was caused by the mod itself.
Edit: changed "..most, if not all ECU vendors.." to "some ECU vendors (i.e. Statsis).
In any case, my understanding is some ECU vendors (i.e. Stasis) offer their own warranty to cover problems caused by their products that Audi won't cover under the factory warranty. Also note that the Audi factory warranty is not voided by any mods made other than if Audi can show that a problem was caused by the mod itself.
Edit: changed "..most, if not all ECU vendors.." to "some ECU vendors (i.e. Statsis).
Last edited by snagitseven; 09-04-2013 at 06:10 PM.
#3
While ACNA may have a partnership with Audi of America (i.e. the ACNA new car discount), they are an independently owned organization. Fourtitude is also independently owned (not by ACNA or Audi) and and uses sponsors and partnerships just like AudiWorld and other auto web forums.
In any case, my understanding is most, if not all, ECU vendors offer their own warranty to cover problems caused by their products that Audi won't cover under the factory warranty. Also note that the Audi factory warranty is not voided by any mods made other than if Audi can show that a problem was caused by the mod itself.
In any case, my understanding is most, if not all, ECU vendors offer their own warranty to cover problems caused by their products that Audi won't cover under the factory warranty. Also note that the Audi factory warranty is not voided by any mods made other than if Audi can show that a problem was caused by the mod itself.
This is not to say that an APR tune will cause any problems because I seriously doubt that they would, but problems can occur with any car, and if you happen to have a tune then it could cause problems.
#4
snagitsteven... thanks for clarifying the relationship of all these entities. I didn't realize they were that independent. One could easily assume they were more intertwined.
#5
There is no warranty by APR against any problems with your car. The only thing covered is problems with their software. There are also a growing number of cases where Audi will tag anything they can with TD1. I think we will see a lot more kick back from them in the future related to mods and warranty. There are a growing number of cases where Audi has voided a warranty due to a tune and didn't try to prove anything.
This is not to say that an APR tune will cause any problems because I seriously doubt that they would, but problems can occur with any car, and if you happen to have a tune then it could cause problems.
This is not to say that an APR tune will cause any problems because I seriously doubt that they would, but problems can occur with any car, and if you happen to have a tune then it could cause problems.
#6
AudiWorld Senior Member
I'm in the same boat. I really want to do the tune, but I don't want to get flagged TD1 or risk an expensive engine related repair being out-of-warranty.
Perhaps when I get closer to the end of the factory warranty I will reconsider.
Perhaps when I get closer to the end of the factory warranty I will reconsider.
#7
AudiWorld Member
In the interim I've owned several tuned/upgraded turbo Subarus without any major issues. I've had my B8 S4 APR tuned for the past 3 years, and I'll likely have the S6 tuned by APR after a few thousand miles (to make sure there are no initial issues).
I also have all my maintenance work performed at a local independent shop (owned by a certified Audi tech), so I'm not overly concerned with "TD1." ECU tuning is a risk, but I just can't drive a stock car.
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#9
AudiWorld Member
From what I understand, it doesn't work that way with the newer model years. The ECU is tied to the keys, so you would essentially need to go back to the Audi dealership to re-code the keys to the ECU each time you swap (and the dealer would figure out why).
#10
AudiWorld Member
In any case, my understanding is most, if not all, ECU vendors offer their own warranty to cover problems caused by their products that Audi won't cover under the factory warranty. Also note that the Audi factory warranty is not voided by any mods made other than if Audi can show that a problem was caused by the mod itself.
While ECU vendors warranty their products, I have heard of none except Stasis (questionable relationship with Audi presently according to rumor) and Dinan (for BMW) that will cover consequential damage to something else on the car.