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Old 08-02-2013, 06:18 AM
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Default Under Back Seat Electrics

Can anyone tell me if this is normal? See picture the wires not fixed to anything. I have been stumped trying to figure out why the 329 relay is clicking, Window switches work when key is off door is opened, front window switches stay lit. I have gone thru all the door wires and did not see any broken or bare wires. The clicking seems to run thru the window motors when I unplug them in each door the click stop on that door but continues in the others. I cannot find the map for the back seat electrics I did a search with no luck. Looking to find out about the V94. Any help would be welcome. Thanks Glenn
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You can upload photos here via the manage attachments (same way you attached the pdf).

Anyway, compare your back seat area to this annotated photo of mine. I am guessing you are missing a mirror memory and longitudinal accelaration sensor.

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Not sure what up the black and yellow and orange wires are connected to both plastic boxes. The bigger of the two has a KL logo with Germany, the small two wire has the same logo with the Benz logo also. Anyone with a wire diagram?
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I replace the replacement 329 relay and put the org back in before I went to work and no clicking but 329 relay and drivers door front window switches are very warm.
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Originally Posted by Glenn92
Not sure what up the black and yellow and orange wires are connected to both plastic boxes. The bigger of the two has a KL logo with Germany, the small two wire has the same logo with the Benz logo also. Anyone with a wire diagram?
Glenn: Your photos are too small to let us see something. Post something at least 800 x 600 pixels in size so we can at least see what is there. I suspect there is some aftermarket stuff.
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The wires with black boxes on the ends run under the back foot well. I am going to see if I can find out where they end up. Glenn
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Originally Posted by Glenn92
The wires with black boxes on the ends run under the back foot well. I am going to see if I can find out where they end up. Glenn
Better photo (thanks). At first glance, it seems that you have everything that I have under my 93 UrS4 rear seat.

Not that this is the answer but:

I got my 98 C4 Avant from NYC area in 2007. It wasn't until 2012 that I discovered that it was equipped with an after market "Lo-Jack" (vehicle locator) module. Perhaps that is what your connectors were for (maybe) ;>)

(But your connectors look very much like the air bag controller module connector so who knows)

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I removed the after market "CRIMESTOPPER" today. This alarm system was already disabled it was attached to the climate control duct above driver's side foot well. Taped all the wires where this was piggybacked in. When I reconnected the battery the 329 relay started to click and you could see the windows start to close just a .125" at first then about 1" with every click when the three windows closed then the driver's window closed without the hesitation. This was when the key was off and door open. I tried to follow the wires from the back seat and could not see where they ended up. They look like they were factory installed the way they were wrapped and routed, they follow the other wires under the back drivers side rug. Is there any why to check the 329 relay to see if they are bad. The relay gets warm along with the driver's door window switches. I did use a trick from the slave cylinder job when I replaced the back door panel I put some sticky back tape on a small wooden dowel and used that to align the door lock thank you Dave and Fred Munro. Well one more weekend shot with the relay still clicking.
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Default 329 Window Control Module info

The window control module on an UrS4 lives in the LHD driver's side kick panel and looks like this:



Sometimes there are issues when there is a short (maybe a faulty ignition switch module or a wiring issue) that leaves the 329 module powered when it otherwise shouldn't be. The 329 (J139) module wiring diagram looks like this:



Sometimes they have soldering issues that can be cured:

The problem:


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More info available in this Auxiliary Relay Panel 2 post
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