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Removed and replaced ABS fuse now lots of problems... :(

Old 10-24-2010, 12:20 PM
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Default Removed and replaced ABS fuse now lots of problems... :(

Sorry for the cross post, posted to VAGCOM but probably better in here?

I removed the ABS fuse whilst drying to troubleshoot a problem then quickly replaced it this afternoon however it seems to have set off a chain of events which basically means everything has gone up the kazoo.

I also removed the black plastic pin cover above the right hand fuse panel, under the same cover but a black cover with lots of pins underneath and purple plastic hinge. This may be more the problem anyhow ...

This is in an Audi A8 D3.

ABS doesn't work, a/c, door closing, windows, central locking etc etc etc.

Having a look via VAGCOM it can't communicate with lots of modules "Cannot be reached" such as Auto HVAC etc.

Clearing faults doesn't make any difference.

Having a look at the vagcom log produces the below. As the ABS was the most visible sign of the problem I tried to clear that and recode the steering sensor however it wont calibrate properly and I guess I am probably missing something more important! Any help greatly appreciated!

Thanks



Chassis Type: 4E0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 1D 1E 25 28 34 36 37
38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 67 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4E95N004806 Mileage: 212950km/132320miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1D-Driver Ident. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: Malfunction 0010
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 077-910-560-BFM.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 Q HW: 4E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0030
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX3Z0D6345603
Coding: 0011773
Shop #: WSC 00411 210 81348
VCID: 2F66DCC0C76F

1 Fault Found:
18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1653 - 008 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 S HW: 09E 927 156 A
Component: AG6 09E 4,2L5V RdW 0020
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 0043832
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3260D5B4D45D

3 Faults Found:
18290 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Electric Parking Brake Controller
P1882 - 000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:15

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 704 /min
RPM: 640 /min
RPM: 0 /min
(no units): 30.0
(no units): 32.0
Temperature: 12.0∞C
T.B. Angle: 0.0∞

18275 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Steering Wheel (J527)
P1867 - 000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:15

18271 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor
P1863 - 000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:15


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B HW: 4E0 614 517 BC
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H44 0510
Coding: 0007597
Shop #: WSC 00588 000 00000
VCID: 224025F484BD

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication
00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 K
Component: FBS AUDID3 H07 0160
Revision: 01604507 Serial number: AUX3Z0D6345603
Coding: 0412672
Shop #: WSC 00353 210 82099
VCID: D8B4C71C1261

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

5 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:32

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:32

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:32

02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:32

01308 - Control Module for Roof Electronics (J528)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:49:32


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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063840
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 234E20F09BA7

2 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:27:46

02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:27:49


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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 769 E HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 5150
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 300GI047537622
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00408 210 87194
VCID: 2E58C1C4C065

Part No: 4E0 910 609 A
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F HW: 4E0 035 111
Component: CD-Changer H44 0470
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBD4020655
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1C3C1B0CA6D9

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 655 HW: 4E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0940
Coding: 0431707
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E3CEE0F05B27

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 950 H HW: 4E0 920 950 H
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H49 0200
Revision: D03 Serial number: AUDID3D6000139
Coding: 0000428
Shop #: WSC 01184 210 94686
VCID: 295232D8F98B

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 160030460703A5
Coding: FCFF7FDC3B7504
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E5CAFEE85513

No fault code found.

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Address 1D: Driver Ident.
Cannot be reached

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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R199) Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F HW: 4E0 035 785
Component: SG ext.Player H09 0850
Revision: 00000000
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5EC8D0F377

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 K
Component: FBS AUDID3 H07 0160
Revision: 01604507 Serial number: AUX3Z0D6345603
Coding: 0412672
Shop #: WSC 00353 210 82099
VCID: D8B4C71C1261

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX

5 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:51:08

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:51:08

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:51:08

02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:51:08

01308 - Control Module for Roof Electronics (J528)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212944 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:51:08


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Address 28: HVAC, Rear Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 158 HW: 4E0 919 158 A
Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 015 0210
Revision: 00000016 Serial number: 00000000019860
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: E1C2EAF8413B

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 H HW: 4E0 907 553 F
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H06 4480
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 285437DCE281

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 Q HW: 4E0 919 887 C
Component: MNS ECE H43 0850
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 353GL047543611
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3B7EF8900317

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 38: Roof Electronics
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000004588
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A50CDD4FC8D

1 Fault Found:
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:27:57


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 801 B
Component: T¸rsteuer.BF BRMH01 0060
Coding: 0032622
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 20442FFC8AB1

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4E0 035 541 B
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H41 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 304GZ047598367
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3162DAB8D15B

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 4E0-910-146.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 146 G HW: 4E0 919 146
Component: TV analog TUNER H12 0300
Revision: 00000025 Serial number: 00000000004153
Coding: 0001003
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 254A3EE89593

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul.
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 C
Component: T¸rsteuer.HL BRM002 0060
Coding: 0032622
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E381104B0C5

No fault code found.

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Address 67: Voice Control Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 S HW: 4E0 035 753 A
Component: SDS 3502 UK H45 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000406180048
Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 3668E9A43835

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 08730418201621
Coding: 0101008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 21422AF881BB

1 Fault Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 132
Mileage: 212956 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.10.24
Time: 11:53:28


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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4F1-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 336 B HW: 4F1 862 335
Component: BTA H07 0900
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: 00000007504117
Coding: 0060021
Shop #: WSC 20028 123 00000
VCID: 234E20F09BA7

No fault code found.

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Old 10-24-2010, 01:59 PM
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Not a technical answer, but from experience: I had a problem in my son's Jetta, the shifter would not come out of Park.

I ran a VAGCOM and the transmission module could not be reached.

The problem was a fuse located on the side fusebox of the dash. When we uninstalled an after market stereo that had the power wire hooked up to the fuse, it made the fuse holder part too big and the fuse was not making a connection. I figured it out because it happened right after we disconnected the wire, but I had no idea the fuse was for the transmission module. Once I plugged the fuse in correctly, the issue went away.

The reason for this story is that I believe that you have something that is disconnected at the fuse block causing all those modules to not be reachable by the VAGCOM. It is extremely unlikely that all those modules would fail at the same time. Take your time and go through all the connections, fuses and wires at the fuse block, I am willing to bet your problem is a loose connection.

Good luck
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thanks for the posting, you turned out to be right! Looks like some devices are connected in serial although I had run an optical bus test and all came out ok, so I guess they where not MOST devices.

Anyhow, I pushed all the fuses back in firmly across the whole board even though they all looked ok and now thank goodness all fine!

Many thanks!
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My very first Thread hear was a Page Full of Fault Codes. I think someone asked if the car had been Hit By Lightning! It all started with the Parking Brake Motor and 07 Control Issues which led me to Pulling and Checking Fuses. The Fuse Boxes are Very Sensitive, but needless to say I pulled and pushed every single fuse to make sure they were seated securely and Cleared all DTCs. The Thread was "A8 Blues" and since then I've become very aware of how sensitive this car is. Laters,
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