Raising your Allroad...
11-02-2012, 06:45 AM
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Adding subframe spacers will not raise the car, in the same way that removing the subframe spacers will not lower the car. The subframe spacers will only change the angle of the control arms and drive shafts for a given ride height.
The ride height is determined by the length of the shock/spring assembly. Adding spacers to the top of the shock mount or fitting a longer shock as mentioned earlier would raise the car. This is probably the easiest way to do it, as you can use stock shocks and springs. However doing this would increase the angle of all suspension components, so you would need to make sure nothing binds up throughout the range of suspension travel.
The ride height is determined by the length of the shock/spring assembly. Adding spacers to the top of the shock mount or fitting a longer shock as mentioned earlier would raise the car. This is probably the easiest way to do it, as you can use stock shocks and springs. However doing this would increase the angle of all suspension components, so you would need to make sure nothing binds up throughout the range of suspension travel.
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11-02-2012, 07:41 AM
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11-02-2012, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristopher
I lifted my 2002 20mm above stock. No ill effects. Now I just drive around on L1 and it's 'stock' height.
I lifted my 2002 20mm above stock. No ill effects. Now I just drive around on L1 and it's 'stock' height.
Did you do this with the VAG COM or with something else?
I'm thinking about having someone make some suspension spacers similar to the ones in the picture below but keep the air suspension. The problem I've found is that on the highest setting the suspension is very stiff due to the increase in air pressure. This will help by letting me use the lower settings more with the same clearance as the highest and giving a little softer ride over the rough stuff.
I'm thinking about having someone make some suspension spacers similar to the ones in the picture below but keep the air suspension. The problem I've found is that on the highest setting the suspension is very stiff due to the increase in air pressure. This will help by letting me use the lower settings more with the same clearance as the highest and giving a little softer ride over the rough stuff.
And you're correct, the suspension is more firm now. If you think about it, L1 is the old L2 and so forth. L4 isn't something I'd want to drive around at so I only use it off-road.
My tires are only slightly larger (225/60/17) but I contemplated going bigger. Love to see a pic of one with A/T tires.
11-03-2012, 10:09 PM
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I am picking up both of what you're laying down.
11-04-2012, 01:50 PM
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http://forums.quattroworld.com/allroad/msgs/80917.phtml
but this never reached production. it would extend travel into both directions, below 1 and above 4 at th same time without a need to do any calibrations.
but this never reached production. it would extend travel into both directions, below 1 and above 4 at th same time without a need to do any calibrations.
12-21-2012, 03:22 PM
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the coolest mod I've done!
even my taller winters look small!
this is level 4
thanks Silva
04-20-2013, 12:24 AM
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Adding subframe spacers will not raise the car, in the same way that removing the subframe spacers will not lower the car. The subframe spacers will only change the angle of the control arms and drive shafts for a given ride height.
The ride height is determined by the length of the shock/spring assembly. Adding spacers to the top of the shock mount or fitting a longer shock as mentioned earlier would raise the car. This is probably the easiest way to do it, as you can use stock shocks and springs. However doing this would increase the angle of all suspension components, so you would need to make sure nothing binds up throughout the range of suspension travel.
The ride height is determined by the length of the shock/spring assembly. Adding spacers to the top of the shock mount or fitting a longer shock as mentioned earlier would raise the car. This is probably the easiest way to do it, as you can use stock shocks and springs. However doing this would increase the angle of all suspension components, so you would need to make sure nothing binds up throughout the range of suspension travel.
04-20-2013, 04:08 AM
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Found this thread while researching Silva's IPP arms. Justin is right. The purpose of those subframe spacers is to maintain desirable CV angles. If you wanted to lift your allroad, spacers on the shocks will do that. Then you'd add spacers to the subframe in order to lower it by the same amount that you raised the vehicle with the shock spacers. Make sense? For what it's worth, I've spent a bunch of time cycling the suspension on my new allroad, taking measurements and making notes. There's a lot of potential in this platform. Especially in the rear. Up front the tires will crash into the inner fenders and firewall on compression and the CV's will hit the subframe on extension if you increase the suspension travel by much more than 1" at the wheels. So the only reason to lift it up front would be to clear bigger tires, not to increase suspension travel. Whole different story in the rear though. There's room to make some big improvements. Suspension linkage is capable of cycling over 13" at the wheels. Airbags are the going to be the big limiting factor there. Looking into options...
Yup, i have since corrected my view, i was wrong. It's interesting that Audi uses that wording in its self-study manual, but you're right, it only changes the angle of the driveshafts.
04-20-2013, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, those IPP arms are awesome... Freetobelee installed them while we were installing his new bags.
04-25-2013, 09:08 PM
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