ISO the "best" street + track tires available (non-R compound).

Potomac-Greg · 02-01-2007, 08:08 AM

I always thought that Falken 615s were the hands-down favorite, but I've seen a few bits of information suggesting that they're a good, sticky tire for autocross, but they get greasy when hot.

David White · 02-01-2007, 08:45 AM

i havent driven on street tires at the track in a long time but...

yes, i have noticed that the falkens get greasy towards the end of a DE session...

i used kumho mx's and they worked fine on track and weren't terribly expensive...

i've heard that michelin ps2's were pretty darn good on track as well but they are more costly...

recently i've heard a lot of good things about some of the hankook street tires (not sure what model) and they are pretty cheap...

i'd get the cheapest decent tire i could find that would stand up (decently) to track use...no point in spending extra to get a slightly faster street tire for a DE

Potomac-Greg · 02-01-2007, 08:54 AM

David White · 02-01-2007, 09:49 AM

pattycakes® iCode · 02-01-2007, 10:52 AM

nord1899 · 02-01-2007, 11:52 AM

just its now an expensive tire. Although, its also awesome on the street, resists hydroplaning well, resists tramlining, etc.

rbt · 02-01-2007, 12:06 PM

it also seems to be have surpassed the Azenis in the AutoX street-tire classes too, at least for the cost-no-object guys.

that being said, i still think it's hard to get a better overall value than you get with the 615s. very good grip for the price.
take the 'getting greasy' thing with a grain of salt too: show me a street tire that *doesn't* get greasy after several laps!!! the people who said that about the Azenis were unfairly putting too much expectation on it, comparing it to entry-level R comps, which it's not.

rbt · 02-01-2007, 12:07 PM

but I've never tried 'em.

laissezfaire · 02-01-2007, 05:50 PM

comfy and quiet ride too.

CP · 02-05-2007, 08:29 AM

I've been using them for 2 years at HPDEs. I run -2.6* camber in front, so this may contribute to my comments. I need to keep two hands on the wheel at all times with the Hankooks. But they stick great and resist hydroplaning well. If overdriven, they'll begin to get slick (overheated) and will begin to chunk but that happens with most street tires. I'm going to try the RT-615 this season and see how they work on the heavy Galant.

02-01-2007, 08:08 AM	#1
Potomac-Greg AudiWorld Super User Account #: 18626 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 21,863	ISO the "best" street + track tires available (non-R compound). I always thought that Falken 615s were the hands-down favorite, but I've seen a few bits of information suggesting that they're a good, sticky tire for autocross, but they get greasy when hot. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Mine: 2002 Mercedes Benz C32 / ///AMG Family Choo Choo: 2008 MB GL320 CDI Track Ho: 1988 Porschuh 944 Recent History: Audi 2002 TT Roadster History: Audi 2000 A6 2.7T Ancient History: Audi 1991 90Q 20V

02-01-2007, 08:45 AM	#2
David White Junior Member Account #: 797 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,565	Re: ISO the "best" street + track tires available (non-R compound). i havent driven on street tires at the track in a long time but... yes, i have noticed that the falkens get greasy towards the end of a DE session... i used kumho mx's and they worked fine on track and weren't terribly expensive... i've heard that michelin ps2's were pretty darn good on track as well but they are more costly... recently i've heard a lot of good things about some of the hankook street tires (not sure what model) and they are pretty cheap... i'd get the cheapest decent tire i could find that would stand up (decently) to track use...no point in spending extra to get a slightly faster street tire for a DE __________________ ______________________________________ E36 328 club racer \| E46 M3 \| Suburban 8.1L \| Jeep GC V8

02-01-2007, 08:54 AM	#3
Potomac-Greg AudiWorld Super User Account #: 18626 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 21,863	Thanks. Great advice. Best trackable street tire is like the world's tallest dwarf. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Mine: 2002 Mercedes Benz C32 / ///AMG Family Choo Choo: 2008 MB GL320 CDI Track Ho: 1988 Porschuh 944 Recent History: Audi 2002 TT Roadster History: Audi 2000 A6 2.7T Ancient History: Audi 1991 90Q 20V

02-01-2007, 09:49 AM	#4
David White Junior Member Account #: 797 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,565	LOL! __________________ ______________________________________ E36 328 club racer \| E46 M3 \| Suburban 8.1L \| Jeep GC V8

02-01-2007, 10:52 AM	#5
pattycakes® iCode Member Account #: 91127 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,823	hahaha!

02-01-2007, 11:52 AM	#6
nord1899 Elder Member Account #: 63507 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 17,649	A vote against Dunlop SP Sport MAXX here, but I liked the Goodyear F1-GSD3 on the track just its now an expensive tire. Although, its also awesome on the street, resists hydroplaning well, resists tramlining, etc. __________________ I find it kind of funny \| I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying \| Are the best I've ever had We are the Hokies. Class of 2000. Salt Lake City Forums Summer Mode: Winter Mode (with modified bumper) AIM: same as username

02-01-2007, 12:06 PM	#7
rbt AudiWorld Super User Account #: 17807 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 18,809	looking around the paddock the last coupla DE events, I'd say the new favorite is the Yoko Neova it also seems to be have surpassed the Azenis in the AutoX street-tire classes too, at least for the cost-no-object guys. that being said, i still think it's hard to get a better overall value than you get with the 615s. very good grip for the price. take the 'getting greasy' thing with a grain of salt too: show me a street tire that doesn't get greasy after several laps!!! the people who said that about the Azenis were unfairly putting too much expectation on it, comparing it to entry-level R comps, which it's not. __________________

02-01-2007, 12:07 PM	#8
rbt AudiWorld Super User Account #: 17807 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 18,809	you're probably referring to the Hankook RS2 Z212. supposably comparable to the Azenis but I've never tried 'em. __________________

02-01-2007, 05:50 PM	#9
laissezfaire AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 225 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,512	I highly recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R. Great on street and track. comfy and quiet ride too. __________________ ********************************* 2001 B5 S4: Upgraded to Stage 3 TRILLION ********************************* The B5 platform... the car that saved Audi. There's nothing else like a B5 S4 SURGE! Feel it baby! Track list: Laguna Seca, Road America, Watkins Glen, Mid Ohio, Thunderhill, Sears Point, Mont Tremblant, Lime Rock, Grattan, Blackhawk Farms, Putnam Park, NJ Motorsports Park

02-05-2007, 08:29 AM	#10
CP Member Account #: 815 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 10,211	The Hankooks tramline like a mofo. I've been using them for 2 years at HPDEs. I run -2.6* camber in front, so this may contribute to my comments. I need to keep two hands on the wheel at all times with the Hankooks. But they stick great and resist hydroplaning well. If overdriven, they'll begin to get slick (overheated) and will begin to chunk but that happens with most street tires. I'm going to try the RT-615 this season and see how they work on the heavy Galant. __________________ -Cy 1999 Spec Miata 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab, Cummins, 6sp dba Speed Shack (www.speedshackonline.com) - Norwood, MA

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