Window Wipers Turn Signal HVAC 1992S4

Glenn92 · 04-21-2012, 05:02 PM

The wipers, turn signals windows and climate control are not working on 1992 S4.
Checked the fuses for the turn signal and window HVAC on the left side of the dash, OK.
Can all of this be one problem?
Where do I start?

UrS4boy · 04-21-2012, 05:06 PM

Replace your ignition switch.

Really.

It's broken.

http://12v.org/urs/IgnitionSwitchReplacementDIY.pdf

scarman · 04-21-2012, 06:48 PM

^^^^ Little doubt about this. You can verify this by checking the key position after start and gently helping it rotate back to the run position. Remove any objects on the keychain not involved in operating this car. Don't over-do the troubleshooting. While the key remains in the start position after starting the car, the starter is running. Shortly you will smell it but then it is too late to save it. Add one starter to this project, and if it burned badly, pay the core charge also.

There has been a lot of discussion about the ignition switch since this article, with very knowledgable members inspecting both the genuine Audi part and aftermarket versions and finding no reason to pay more for the Audi part since improvements have been made to them that may not be in the genuine part, depending on its age.

That is a pretty good write-up on the change proceedure. If you decide to tackle this yourself, (and it is not a difficult DIY project) just leave plenty of time. You should inspect the instrument panel beforehand for any dim areas that might need a new bulb, and buy the 893 919 040 A bulbs. The 2W make a lot of difference over the 1.3W original 4A0 919 040 C bulbs, and you have a dimmer to adjust them if necessary.

The #2 phillips screws can be very tight-perservere. Cody mentioned at the end his bloody hand. The sheet metal edges are very sharp. Vinyl gloves can help some-thicker gloves will impair your grip on things. The bracket and flasher relay can both be unclipped and moved out of the way. The switch slides out forward on the car(which is away from you, so it was described as back). It must be aligned perfectly to slide the new part back in, and given the restricted area and limited vision with your hand in the way, it can take several tries to get it back in place.

Glenn92 · 04-22-2012, 10:16 AM

Thank you! I will try next weekend and post.

Glenn92 · 05-06-2012, 05:56 PM

Installed the new switch and wipers, turn signal, power windows Climate Control now work, purchased from German Auto Parts for $16 bucks it had a manufacture date of 02\2011 lets see how it holds up. Thanks to UrS4boy and scarman. I put new 2w bulbs in the instrument cluster I bought 10 needed 11. Turned on the lights to see how they looked and nothing lit up and the Climate Control lights went dark.

UrS4boy · 05-06-2012, 10:33 PM

Either you forgot a plug on the back of the instrument cluster or it came out of position. 5 minutes to check and correct.

Glenn92 · 07-08-2012, 08:41 AM

I have the dead battery problem I see the S4 on weekends and if I don't disconnect the battery it goes dead. The radio does not shut off when the key is removed thought the Meyle ignition switch was the problem. Replaced with Audi part from Ingrid and Bill this did not fix the problem. Am I correct with thinking that the radio should turn off when the key is removed?

scarman · 07-08-2012, 01:44 PM

Neither Meyle nor Bill and Ingrid are the problem. Glenn92 is the problem. Use thumb and forefinger of right hand to rotate power **** counterclockwise and turn radio off. If you can't remember to turn it off, don't turn it on.

UrS4boy · 07-08-2012, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarman

Neither Meyle nor Bill and Ingrid are the problem. Glenn92 is the problem. Use thumb and forefinger of right hand to rotate power **** counterclockwise and turn radio off. If you can't remember to turn it off, don't turn it on.

OOoo..burn. Burn baby.

(Glenn92: Only the later UrS6s turn off the radio when the key is removed. With the UrS4s, the radio stays on and, as you now know, will drain the battery until it is dead. As Tom suggests, you need to remember to turn the radio off manually).

Glenn92 · 07-09-2012, 04:50 AM

I should have asked first on this. I do not leave the radio on so I have another problem with the battery drain. Thank you for info Glenn

04-21-2012, 06:48 PM	#3
scarman AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 612	^^^^ Little doubt about this. You can verify this by checking the key position after start and gently helping it rotate back to the run position. Remove any objects on the keychain not involved in operating this car. Don't over-do the troubleshooting. While the key remains in the start position after starting the car, the starter is running. Shortly you will smell it but then it is too late to save it. Add one starter to this project, and if it burned badly, pay the core charge also. There has been a lot of discussion about the ignition switch since this article, with very knowledgable members inspecting both the genuine Audi part and aftermarket versions and finding no reason to pay more for the Audi part since improvements have been made to them that may not be in the genuine part, depending on its age. That is a pretty good write-up on the change proceedure. If you decide to tackle this yourself, (and it is not a difficult DIY project) just leave plenty of time. You should inspect the instrument panel beforehand for any dim areas that might need a new bulb, and buy the 893 919 040 A bulbs. The 2W make a lot of difference over the 1.3W original 4A0 919 040 C bulbs, and you have a dimmer to adjust them if necessary. The #2 phillips screws can be very tight-perservere. Cody mentioned at the end his bloody hand. The sheet metal edges are very sharp. Vinyl gloves can help some-thicker gloves will impair your grip on things. The bracket and flasher relay can both be unclipped and moved out of the way. The switch slides out forward on the car(which is away from you, so it was described as back). It must be aligned perfectly to slide the new part back in, and given the restricted area and limited vision with your hand in the way, it can take several tries to get it back in place. __________________ Tom '95 S6 '95.5 S6 avant

05-06-2012, 10:33 PM	#6
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,210	Either you forgot a plug on the back of the instrument cluster or it came out of position. 5 minutes to check and correct. __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

07-08-2012, 01:44 PM	#8
scarman AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 612	Neither Meyle nor Bill and Ingrid are the problem. Glenn92 is the problem. Use thumb and forefinger of right hand to rotate power **** counterclockwise and turn radio off. If you can't remember to turn it off, don't turn it on. __________________ Tom '95 S6 '95.5 S6 avant

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04-21-2012, 05:06 PM	#2
UrS4boy AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,210	Replace your ignition switch. Really. It's broken. http://12v.org/urs/IgnitionSwitchReplacementDIY.pdf __________________ Naturally, IMHHEO(tm), Dave F. aka the Librarian Car and Mods: 93 S4, 1.8t coil pack conversion (First in world using integral POS coil packs (??)), CF (OE), S6 steering wheel, RS2'd, Samcos, MRC, TDS-1, Apikol FMIC, Eibach/Bilstein, BIRA Sys 1, relayed FP Click here to link to the UrS FAQ Thread Start Uncle Dave says "You want my 'high horse, elitist' opinion ?(IMHHEO(tm))Then just post something stupid." Unofficial Chief Cat-herder Vancouver UrS-car club

04-22-2012, 10:16 AM	#4
Glenn92 Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 26	Thank you! I will try next weekend and post.

05-06-2012, 05:56 PM	#5
Glenn92 Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 26	Installed the new switch and wipers, turn signal, power windows Climate Control now work, purchased from German Auto Parts for $16 bucks it had a manufacture date of 02\2011 lets see how it holds up. Thanks to UrS4boy and scarman. I put new 2w bulbs in the instrument cluster I bought 10 needed 11. Turned on the lights to see how they looked and nothing lit up and the Climate Control lights went dark.

07-08-2012, 08:41 AM	#7
Glenn92 Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 26	I have the dead battery problem I see the S4 on weekends and if I don't disconnect the battery it goes dead. The radio does not shut off when the key is removed thought the Meyle ignition switch was the problem. Replaced with Audi part from Ingrid and Bill this did not fix the problem. Am I correct with thinking that the radio should turn off when the key is removed?

07-09-2012, 04:50 AM	#10
Glenn92 Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 26	I should have asked first on this. I do not leave the radio on so I have another problem with the battery drain. Thank you for info Glenn