Virtual Road Test: B8 S4

**Jason Teller** · 08-04-2008, 08:02 PM

Everything we currently know about the next generation S4...

http://www.audiworld.com/news/08/b8-...tual-roadtest/

chewym · 08-04-2008, 11:52 PM

Audi says that the supercharger is good for packaging, and the engine ended up being couple of pounds lighter than the BMW I6 twin turbo. The regular 3.2 is about fifteen pounds heavier than the non twin turbo I6 3.0. You can say that the supercharger could have possibly saved Audi about 20 pounds when compared to a twin turbo setup.

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15779

ACSGP · 08-05-2008, 12:21 AM

Them fighting words.

Can you please respond to my mail. Am getting an S5 tip + ADS for a test this weekend.

Silver Streakin' · 08-05-2008, 05:59 AM

since the 335i is a 3.0 I6 turbo that makes 300 hp. honestly, 330hp is still a dissapointment, since isn't the current B7 S4 making 340? You'd think that Audi would at least reach 350hp. But, if their competition is the 335i at 300hp, then it better be priced accordingly with it in the low $40Ks. If it breaks $50K, then it needs to clearly be the winner in the hp war...even against its prior self...and break the 350 barrier.

hugj · 08-05-2008, 08:09 AM

of headroom in the factory setup vs . the 335. I'm looking forward to driving one in 2009 since that will be perfect timing for me to consider purchasing a new vehicle.

Z-Tuned (Alex) · 08-05-2008, 08:44 AM

One thing I know it won't be better at is... well... performance. My gut tells me a basic chipped B5 S4 won't have a problem keeping up with a B8 S4. A RS4'd B5 S4 with suspension will embarrass it -- plain and simple... even a tuned B8 S4. We shall see.

*anxiously anticipates youtube comparison videos in 09*

**Jason Teller** · 08-05-2008, 08:59 AM

I spoke to not one, but two people with ACTUAL SEAT TIME in this new vehicle. Each has extensive time in mod'd B5's and in the RS4. This was no fishy write-up, I did my homework and reported it just as it was relayed to me.

scfan · 08-05-2008, 10:00 AM

It was their choice for the pilot vehicle while being chased by the RS4 and R8.

I would guess that has more to do with the refinement and improvements in the new chassis, versus the choice of the powerplant.

I got to drive the S5 on the track and it was better to drive than the RS4. Sure; the RS4 has more power, but you could come close to the same lap times given the better suspension layout. Of course that would depend on the track, but Infineon with its many curves and elevation changes was better in the S5. Not to take anything away from the B7 RS4--it is a lot of fun and plenty capable.

**Jason Teller** · 08-05-2008, 10:02 AM

Keep in mind new powerplant in B8 S4 also provides torque much quicker than in S5.

scfan · 08-05-2008, 10:04 AM

But the new chassis has it all over the B5 with chassis rigidity, front axle location (weight bias), and Torsen split.

My biggest beef, these days, with the B5 is its now antiquated chassis rigidity and weight over the front axle. Unless you spend some $$$'s shoring it up, the chassis shows it age...and ultimately you're still limited to some degree on the improvements you can make.

This is from a longtime B5 fan that is moving forward.

08-04-2008, 08:02 PM	#1
Jason Teller AudiWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,649	Virtual Road Test: B8 S4 Everything we currently know about the next generation S4... http://www.audiworld.com/news/08/b8-...tual-roadtest/ __________________

08-04-2008, 11:52 PM	#2
chewym AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 715	spy shots showed LED tails Audi says that the supercharger is good for packaging, and the engine ended up being couple of pounds lighter than the BMW I6 twin turbo. The regular 3.2 is about fifteen pounds heavier than the non twin turbo I6 3.0. You can say that the supercharger could have possibly saved Audi about 20 pounds when compared to a twin turbo setup. http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15779

08-05-2008, 12:21 AM	#3
ACSGP AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,137	"the B8 S4 is more fun to drive than the RS4." Them fighting words. Can you please respond to my mail. Am getting an S5 tip + ADS for a test this weekend. __________________ Current : 2004 C6 A6 3.0L (petrol) FWD Multitronic, Brilliant Black, Caractere Kit, 19" MTM Forged Bimotos, s-line suspension + Koni FSDs, Black/Creme Beige Interior Not Forgotten : 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera2 Tip, Guards Red 1989 80 1.8S Manual, 1998 A6 2.4 FWD, 1994 80 2.0E, 1972 Old Beetle 1985 Kawasaki 900 Ninja, 1984 Kawasaki GPz 750 1982 Kawasaki GPz 550 Unitrak http://forums.audiworld.com/album.ph...d=75066&page=2

08-05-2008, 05:59 AM	#4
Silver Streakin' Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PA Posts: 42,036	if the S4 is now supposed to compete with the 335i, it better be in the 330 hp range and not 290 since the 335i is a 3.0 I6 turbo that makes 300 hp. honestly, 330hp is still a dissapointment, since isn't the current B7 S4 making 340? You'd think that Audi would at least reach 350hp. But, if their competition is the 335i at 300hp, then it better be priced accordingly with it in the low $40Ks. If it breaks $50K, then it needs to clearly be the winner in the hp war...even against its prior self...and break the 350 barrier. __________________ -Jeff 2001.5 A4 1.8TQMSCC with APR SIII, EVO FMIC, Stoptech-less, STaSIS Tracksports 600F/750R ACNA MidOhio video Montreal race school and PDA Pocono video

08-05-2008, 08:09 AM	#5
hugj New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 147	I agree - the tuning possibilites on a SC car may put it way behind the curve unless there is a lot of headroom in the factory setup vs . the 335. I'm looking forward to driving one in 2009 since that will be perfect timing for me to consider purchasing a new vehicle.

08-05-2008, 08:44 AM	#6
Z-Tuned (Alex) Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,249	How can one who has "virtually" driven the B8 S4 claim it's better than a built B5 S4? One thing I know it won't be better at is... well... performance. My gut tells me a basic chipped B5 S4 won't have a problem keeping up with a B8 S4. A RS4'd B5 S4 with suspension will embarrass it -- plain and simple... even a tuned B8 S4. We shall see. anxiously anticipates youtube comparison videos in 09 __________________ *Well gosh darn it, you betcha' that turbo is blown!*

08-05-2008, 08:59 AM	#7
Jason Teller AudiWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,649	With all due respect... I spoke to not one, but two people with ACTUAL SEAT TIME in this new vehicle. Each has extensive time in mod'd B5's and in the RS4. This was no fishy write-up, I did my homework and reported it just as it was relayed to me. __________________

08-05-2008, 10:00 AM	#8
scfan AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,491	The Skip Barber guys at Audi Sportscar Experience said the same about the S5 It was their choice for the pilot vehicle while being chased by the RS4 and R8. I would guess that has more to do with the refinement and improvements in the new chassis, versus the choice of the powerplant. I got to drive the S5 on the track and it was better to drive than the RS4. Sure; the RS4 has more power, but you could come close to the same lap times given the better suspension layout. Of course that would depend on the track, but Infineon with its many curves and elevation changes was better in the S5. Not to take anything away from the B7 RS4--it is a lot of fun and plenty capable. __________________ <big>I'm a Porsche 911!</big> You have a classic style, but you're up-to-date with the latest technology. You're ambitious, competitive, and you love to win. Performance, precision, and prestige - you're one of the elite,and you know it. Take the Which Sports Car Are You? quiz.

08-05-2008, 10:02 AM	#9
Jason Teller AudiWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,649	That feedback is very consistent with what I am hearing Keep in mind new powerplant in B8 S4 also provides torque much quicker than in S5. __________________

08-05-2008, 10:04 AM	#10
scfan AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,491	The B5 might have the power plant advantage But the new chassis has it all over the B5 with chassis rigidity, front axle location (weight bias), and Torsen split. My biggest beef, these days, with the B5 is its now antiquated chassis rigidity and weight over the front axle. Unless you spend some $$$'s shoring it up, the chassis shows it age...and ultimately you're still limited to some degree on the improvements you can make. This is from a longtime B5 fan that is moving forward. __________________ <big>I'm a Porsche 911!</big> You have a classic style, but you're up-to-date with the latest technology. You're ambitious, competitive, and you love to win. Performance, precision, and prestige - you're one of the elite,and you know it. Take the Which Sports Car Are You? quiz.

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