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Old 01-31-2006, 02:46 PM   #11
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Default Hmmm...

So, you seem to indicate that, for the 2.7T 30v V6, you should just expect to not only replace the timing belt, but just go ahead and replace cam adjusters, water pump and maybe even cam seals at 80K +/-??? Still scares me a bit.

But, let's take it a step further. You can use a metal impeller WP, right? Does that cure that problem more long-term?

Also, are there aftermarket or upgraded cam adjusters and/or seals that can be used to cure the problem more long term?

Any and all comments appreciated
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:29 PM   #12
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Default Really?

So, there isn't a 2000/2001 A6 with the 30V V6 and 6-speed manual?

Any comprehensive list identifying available configurations vs. year and model?

Links and urls would be cool

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Old 02-01-2006, 01:05 PM   #13
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Default I roasted a 2.7t a few months back

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/10896/dsc01436.jpg"></center><p>It was a result of poor workmanship from the sellng dealer (Richmond Motors in Chatam Ontario) than any problem with the motor. In owning two 2.7t cars, and 3 2.7t engines I would have to say that they are very reliable engines. Have never run into turbo problems (I am a fanatic about proper warm up/cool down and synth oil every 6k kms).

I wouldn't worry too much about leaking seals, mechanics who work on my cars all tell me that you need to take care of the turbos and everything else will be fine. TB replacement as per this site's recommended schedule is also a good idea. Other than that your worries are few and far between.

The one I blew up ate a few valves and a spark plug and still ran (tho not very well).

If you come to this site and expect people to be down on the cars we all love, you are mistaken, so cut these guys some slack, they are trying to help.

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Old 02-01-2006, 03:32 PM   #14
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Default AFAIK, there are no aftermarket WP with metal impellers. (flame suit on if I'm wrong)

Also, there aren't any upgraded cam seals or adjusters, either (still wearing flame suit.) Honestly, the timing belt needs to be changed out every 60k or so, along with the wp, tstat, and since you have to take the front end off of the car, why not just do the cam seals, valve cover gaskets, etc.?
I just got done doing mine at 55k (2001.5), and I had a leaking cam seal on the driver's side. It had been leaking since 30k with no adverse problems; I probably lost 1 quart of oil for about 4k miles. It apparently wasn't that big of a deal because it never was addressed by Audi when I was under warranty. So, yes, it seems "scary" that you "have" to replace all that stuff, but I could have just left it alone and run another 55k until it either a.) started dumping oil or b.) came time for the next timing belt change.
The above not only applies to the 2.7t but also to the 2.2t I5, 3.6 V8, and 2.3 I5 that were in my other Audis. Did I do them? Yes to some, no to others, and it's not mattered so far because nothing has broken (knocks on wood.) Preventative maintenance is just that: preventative. You actually never see the results because the car is never broken. However, peace of mind is a whole lot cheaper than a new engine.
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Old 02-01-2006, 04:26 PM   #15
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Default OK. Understood...

...maybe it's not quite so "scary" after all. It IS a bit more involved PM than I'd prefer, but still better than driving a Chevy

No doubt, it's important to be able to determine what's been done when checking out used units.

Thanks much for your input, and to all the rest.

Great group here!!
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Old 02-01-2006, 06:46 PM   #16
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Default yes and there is one or two on ebay just eh a6 with a stick..

but they are hard to find..

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Old 02-03-2006, 07:12 AM   #17
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Default My replacement WP has metal impellers...

instead of the odd plastic ones that were on
the original (I should have taken pics).
I bought mine from ECS. If I remember
correctly, my Audi Tech told me that the water
pump was revised. When and why, I don't
remember. I'll have to ask again.

I did my WP and Timing belt at 80,000 miles.

I also don't have any leaks of any kind.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:30 AM   #18
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Default Flame suit on, Quick? :)

ETA,

Thanks for the post. Was the WP from Audi? Or was it aftermarket/3rd party?

Thanks again,
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:06 AM   #19
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Default Not from Audi...

but I would be reluctant to call it "Aftermarket".
It's described as, "OE water pump with new gasket
manufactured by HEPU of Germany."

I'll email you more info.
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:16 PM   #20
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Default Mine was from Worldpac, so who knows where it came from.

Their stuff is usually OE or OEM, but heaven only knows. All I know is that mine had a plastic impeller and my mechanic said there wasn't one with a metal impeller out yet. There might be one out there, though. Probably need to research it.
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