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Old 10-08-2006, 07:02 AM   #1
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Default Any reason I shouldnt go get one today?

I use my PS2 currently with component connection, pathetic, I know, I'm selling this PS2 (I dont ply games on it anyway).

This things an upconverter with HDMI for $299.00!? I'm not getting a HD-DVD player till they settle on a format and come down in price.

Looks good.

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<a href="http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/press/release/detail/0,,2076_310069593_316080415,00.html" target="_blank">Pioneer Elite DV-46AV DVD Player</a>
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:07 AM   #2
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Default Do it. for this too: DVD-Audio and SACD for multi-channel music

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Old 10-08-2006, 09:19 AM   #3
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Default Only one - bettered by the Oppo.

After seeing the innards of this product I can't help thinking the Elite tag is mas-placed. Elite products in the past have been known for great build. theOppo isn't built brilliantly either but it's tweak to give a better picture and much better sound. And you get a memory card slot or three.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:32 AM   #4
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Default I thought the Neodigits helios was better.

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Old 10-09-2006, 06:39 AM   #5
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Default Update: I went and got one, yesterday. (short impressions, long post)

Magnolia matched the lowest price and I had a 10% off coupon, they tossed in a 3' Gold HDMI cable for $60 as well. Walked away spending $300 and some change.

I played X-men 3 which IMO is a crappy DVD, so afterwards I tested Gladiator (for the DTS) and it sounded fantastic for my unfinished set-up of a LFE hooked up DefTech Supercuble III and the Pioneer's stock front speakers, but I still hadnt played with the scaling...

I'm not too impressed with the 720p and 1080i up-conversion, and in any mode, I still need to set my Pioneer plasma to the Zoom setting for everything to line up correctly, (I used the THX optimizer on a Star Wars DVD to manage the screen scaling).

I poped in Lord of the Rings (the last one) and it looked fantastic, and was much more crisp and color saturated compared to the PS2. The sound, and overall bass depth and quality were also improved.

I'm going to test other wide screen formats this evening including The Incredibles 2:39:1 and Snatch 1:35:1 (IIRC) as most of these are 2:35:1 (I think?) but I dont know much about ratio's anyway.

Anyone care to expand on the ratio's and why "widescreen" formats vary?

I'll play with the HDMI color mode and upscaling later, but notice I need tto recalibrate the plasma's setting with every jump from 480p to 720p to 1080i and have it set on 420p for now.

Anyone else have an upconverting DVD player? Your thoughts on the best set-up.

I'll report more later but so far Lord of the Rings and Star Wars II looked as good as its gonna get till I get an HD-DVD/Blue-Ray device.

Lastly, the construction or the DVD player is nice. It has a glossy face to match the Pioneer Plasma bezel and DefTech end caps. There are no silly lighted buttons and other nonsense to distract from the sleek design and the remote of both TV and DVD player can opperate the other right out of the box, which was nice.

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:10 AM   #6
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Default Get some SACDs - you should enjoy the sound if you are using your receivers sound system

Since the native resolution of your plasma will require an additional conversion process - you may have some picture issues related to that. Have you just tried 480p to the plasma - and let the TV do the up conversion and scaling?

Aspect ratios vary per director/film. Artistic license.
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Default It performs well with video, but falls short on audio

They did some good things on the video board.
For audio it's not so bad if you are just feeding the digital signal to receiver for 5.1 decoding with movies, but as a CD player using the analog outs it's very basic. The Oppo has very good 2 and 6 channel delivery.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:29 AM   #8
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Default widescreen aspect ratios vary because...

well, different films are shot at various aspect ratios.

4:3 (1.33:1, aka, normal TV) was originally the format used for films. This is why TVs followed that aspect ratio. Filmmakers went to wider formats partially to set theatrical films apart from the TV versions.

There are 3 *main* widescreen formats. 2.35:1, 1.85:1, and 1.77:1 (aka 16:9).

Most HDTV content is 16:9. 16:9 is the official aspect ratio of HDTV.

Films vary between 2.35 and 1.85. 1.85:1 is so close to 16:9 that the overscan of your typical consumer equipment makes it appear to fill the screen... ie, you rarely see letterboxing on 1.85:1 content. More and more films are shot at this aspect ratio for compatability with consumer gear. Which format is used, though, is up to the director(s) of the film.
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Default you have an Oppo? which one?

any "mods"?
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Default Ive been reading... (2nd update)

...thanks.

I tested a Superbit DVD, Men In Black and in 420p mode it fit the entire screen.

In 720p, the color is more rich and there is just a thin line of letterbox top and bottom when the Pioneer Plasma is on Zoom mode.

I then watched the Incredibles which is a 2:39:1 enhanced DVD for 16:9 TV's, so it says on the box. I like the scaling of the 420p with Zoom best, size wise, but I like the color of the 720p with Zoom in terms of detail better, I think.

I find more detail with the 720p/Zoom setting then the 1080i or 420p settings testing these twwo movies, so I guess thats where I'll stay, again, till HD-DVD/Blue Ray becomes a standard.
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