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egghead_S6 · 02-20-2003, 07:13 AM

2953 · 02-20-2003, 07:40 AM

... Of course, a single turbo or supercharged 4.2L V8 would package in the B6 engine bay.

As would a single turbo 5.0L FSI V8... IF such an engine existed.

RogDog · 02-20-2003, 10:12 AM

Jeff_DML · 02-20-2003, 04:29 PM

people talked about it below in a thread

audifirst · 02-20-2003, 06:37 PM

but I doubt it..
dealers will says what they want to say, how many times I heard B5 RS4 will come to North America since it's existance, did ever happen ? nope, mislead info from dealers..
it might come based on new chassis which is predicted in 05/06

audifirst · 02-20-2003, 06:40 PM

don't get your hope on RS4 in Canada, defently will not arrive in Canada either.. thank your local government Ministry of Transportation for putting idiotic laws on bumpers and damage control which is another way protecting insurance companies..

audifirst · 02-20-2003, 06:42 PM

yes to be exact 3.2 "biturbo" is in works right now at ingolstadt as we speak and tested, and probably will be the future engine for RS4..

leggera · 02-20-2003, 06:49 PM

Yes, Auto Week a few issues back stated that the RS4 is indeed coming and it will be packaged with a Bi-Turbo. They did call the B6 S4 right with the 4.2 when other sources sated otherwise.
I don't know about the rest of you, but when I think of Audi and their cars, I picture, AWD and Turbo power plants. I am disappointed with the V8 in many ways because not only dose it get away form what I love about the company, but the hp is rather low considering the displacement. When I think big V8, I picture 400hp+ big grunt hp. I hope the RS4 comes in with:

Bi-Turbo Engine with E46 M3 and E39 M5 stopping power
More Drive feed back steering
Price that keeps it somewhat as a bargain for all the power.

I'm afraid the RS4 might be what the RS6 is. A great car but already beaten in numbers before it reaches our market and still lacks what BMW can create for the driving experience...

D all over · 02-20-2003, 08:46 PM

Look at the 2.7T. That didn't even make 100hp/liter in stock form and that was forced induction. What did you expect? I wouldn't even call this a "big" V8. Not that it's small, but 4.2 liters isn't that huge. Look at what engines of comparable size make. The Lexus 4.3 liter V8 makes 75hp/liter. I think the Jag's 4.2 makes 71hp/liter. The Mercedes 4.3 liter V8 only makes 63hp/liter, as well as making less torque. I can think of only five European production V8's that make more power without using forced induction (residing in the M5, the CLK55, Maserati Coupe/Spider, Ferrari 360, and Porsche's new ugly duckling) and only the Ferrari/Maserati engine (which are indeed vary smilar) make are of comparable size. Sure, I would have liked to see 360hp since I know Audi can do it, but those 20hp wouldn't have made all the difference in the world.

In conclusion: I see nothing to complain about.

Sorry about the rant

leggera · 02-20-2003, 08:59 PM

Good points. Yes, the 4.2 is not "big", obvious the same weight as our 2.7T. My wording should have compared the Audi N/A engines to the M power plants. Smaller displacement and almost as much power. I know, our can not compare apples to oranges. Yes, the 2.7T compared to a North American spec E36 M3 was not a amazing power plant, but it offered so much tuning potential that most thought of the 2.7T as a 300hp engine. Just some thought. I am an Audi fan for many reasons and just want to see the brand on top.

02-20-2003, 07:13 AM	#11
egghead_S6 New Member Account #: 47091 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 290	RS4 will make it over for 2005 or 2006.

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2953 Senior Member Account #: 267 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,543	You MIGHT be on to something there... ... Of course, a single turbo or supercharged 4.2L V8 would package in the B6 engine bay. As would a single turbo 5.0L FSI V8... IF such an engine existed. __________________ <font color="AA0000"> <u>Did you know?</u> France is actually an asteroid that smashed into Europe 1148 years ago and is populated by the same fun-loving Space Aliens with a wicked sense of humor that rode it down from deep space! </font> <br/> create your own visited country map

02-20-2003, 10:12 AM	#13
RogDog Member Account #: 149 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 4,562	I thought Len Hunt already confirmed (or at least strongly hinted) that it is coming. __________________ - Rog GONE, but never forgotten. "But the man who can most truly be accounted brave is he who best knows the meaning of what is sweet in life and of what is terrible, and then goes out undeterred to meet what is to come." - Pericles, 431 B.C.

02-20-2003, 04:29 PM	#14
Jeff_DML Junior Member Account #: 922 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 713	Autoweek claims 3.0l TT for the RS4 if you believe them people talked about it below in a thread __________________ 98 A4 1.8T // sold 04 WRX 02 325iT

02-20-2003, 06:37 PM	#15
audifirst AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 14332 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,672	everything is possible.. but I doubt it.. dealers will says what they want to say, how many times I heard B5 RS4 will come to North America since it's existance, did ever happen ? nope, mislead info from dealers.. it might come based on new chassis which is predicted in 05/06 __________________ Cluster Fix You Tube Audi A6 site Audi A4 site FAQ for B5 Audi

02-20-2003, 06:40 PM	#16
audifirst AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 14332 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,672	Re: my dealer said... don't get your hope on RS4 in Canada, defently will not arrive in Canada either.. thank your local government Ministry of Transportation for putting idiotic laws on bumpers and damage control which is another way protecting insurance companies.. __________________ Cluster Fix You Tube Audi A6 site Audi A4 site FAQ for B5 Audi

02-20-2003, 06:42 PM	#17
audifirst AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 14332 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,672	Re: Autoweek claims 3.0l TT for the RS4 if you believe them yes to be exact 3.2 "biturbo" is in works right now at ingolstadt as we speak and tested, and probably will be the future engine for RS4.. __________________ Cluster Fix You Tube Audi A6 site Audi A4 site FAQ for B5 Audi

02-20-2003, 06:49 PM	#18
leggera New Member Account #: 37536 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	RS4 Thoughts Yes, Auto Week a few issues back stated that the RS4 is indeed coming and it will be packaged with a Bi-Turbo. They did call the B6 S4 right with the 4.2 when other sources sated otherwise. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I think of Audi and their cars, I picture, AWD and Turbo power plants. I am disappointed with the V8 in many ways because not only dose it get away form what I love about the company, but the hp is rather low considering the displacement. When I think big V8, I picture 400hp+ big grunt hp. I hope the RS4 comes in with: Bi-Turbo Engine with E46 M3 and E39 M5 stopping power More Drive feed back steering Price that keeps it somewhat as a bargain for all the power. I'm afraid the RS4 might be what the RS6 is. A great car but already beaten in numbers before it reaches our market and still lacks what BMW can create for the driving experience... __________________

02-20-2003, 08:46 PM	#19
D all over Member Account #: 30585 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,002	The S4's V8 makes something like 80hp/liter. That isn't exactly low... Look at the 2.7T. That didn't even make 100hp/liter in stock form and that was forced induction. What did you expect? I wouldn't even call this a "big" V8. Not that it's small, but 4.2 liters isn't that huge. Look at what engines of comparable size make. The Lexus 4.3 liter V8 makes 75hp/liter. I think the Jag's 4.2 makes 71hp/liter. The Mercedes 4.3 liter V8 only makes 63hp/liter, as well as making less torque. I can think of only five European production V8's that make more power without using forced induction (residing in the M5, the CLK55, Maserati Coupe/Spider, Ferrari 360, and Porsche's new ugly duckling) and only the Ferrari/Maserati engine (which are indeed vary smilar) make are of comparable size. Sure, I would have liked to see 360hp since I know Audi can do it, but those 20hp wouldn't have made all the difference in the world. In conclusion: I see nothing to complain about. Sorry about the rant __________________

02-20-2003, 08:59 PM	#20
leggera New Member Account #: 37536 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	That isn't exactly low...... Good points. Yes, the 4.2 is not "big", obvious the same weight as our 2.7T. My wording should have compared the Audi N/A engines to the M power plants. Smaller displacement and almost as much power. I know, our can not compare apples to oranges. Yes, the 2.7T compared to a North American spec E36 M3 was not a amazing power plant, but it offered so much tuning potential that most thought of the 2.7T as a 300hp engine. Just some thought. I am an Audi fan for many reasons and just want to see the brand on top. __________________

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