All Italian, how is the Tip Chip?

allroad(s) lead 2Gavin · 03-02-2004, 04:52 PM

Did you get the Tip Chip installed? What do you think, worth the $$$?

Your ECU stock?

Thanks!
Gavin

All Italian · 03-02-2004, 09:06 PM

Last Friday went to Matrix Engineering in Portland OR.
Got a GIAC tip Chip, cost $375 plus I paid $50 extra to have a socket put in so I could put the OEM chip back in whenever I wanted to. Piece of mind in case it died or I sold the car.
Watched the tech pull off the running board from the passenger side then get under the passenger foot area where the trans chip lives. Took him 10 minutes to get it out. 45 minutes to install chip.

Results are not breath taken at first but as you drive you begin to see that all the shifting in D,S or tip is faster. You notice less drops in RPM's between shifts in all programs. In tip it is a blast almost like a 5 speed. The difference is like an 18 year old boy VS aunt Betty at the drag strip. Chip tip is the boy

This is the only mod my wife has ever noticed!!!
She says to me! "What did you do to that wagon it does not lag when shifting from reverse to drive anymore"? This is true even at a stand still the dreaded delay from R to D is gone. This has been a sore point for many of us on this forum and here is a way to get rid of it for good.

Driving in D and S is also nice because you can see and feel the quicker shifts. The more aggressive you are the more you appreciate the faster shifts.

In short this is a worthwhile mod that will improve performance and get ride of some of the lag problems with the slush box.

I would think that this would be a must before you do an ECU chip and it is darn nice even if you don't do the engine chip!

Hope this helps all you tip drivers out there.
GIAC is the only maker of this tip chip.

allroad'Ed now · 03-03-2004, 07:19 AM

In other words, when pulling away from a light, if I'm too quick going from brake to gas (or left foot brake), there is no boost for several seconds. I know this is programmed in, but did the tip chip help this too? If so, that's my next mod!

rr_allroad · 03-03-2004, 08:11 AM

That lag (BTL syndrome) is an issue that is not addressed by the GIAC. I replied to your other post about your reflash.

All Italian · 03-03-2004, 08:24 AM

there quicker. But this chip won't fix the throttle lag! But using tip mode will.

allroad(s) lead 2Gavin · 03-03-2004, 09:10 AM

Ming 2.7T · 03-03-2004, 11:48 AM

But A Giac Tranny chip will give you quicker shifts.
Stock 0-60 was a best of 6.45 seconds usually between 6.45 and 6.60. With the Tranny chip it was 6.15-6.30. That was using only 1 shift 1-2, since 2nd goes past 60mph. In 1/4 mile it was about a .25-.40 difference at the strip, which added the 2-3 shift.
The Giac chip "may" also hunt in Tip mode between 4th and 5th at 4000rpm's. But with all it pluses, I say it out weighs this quirk.
YOu should have driven my car, maybe next time.

rr_allroad · 03-03-2004, 11:51 AM

Sorry Italian.... TIP mode doesn't make BTL syndrome disappear.

jtannertate · 08-05-2004, 06:51 PM

I like your poetry-
Long live the biturbo my brother.

jtannertate · 08-05-2004, 06:59 PM

I live in NYC and have been haveing problems finding a shop to install my chip. Any suggestions.
Thanks

03-02-2004, 04:52 PM	#1
allroad(s) lead 2Gavin AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 6541 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,149	All Italian, how is the Tip Chip? Did you get the Tip Chip installed? What do you think, worth the $$$? Your ECU stock? Thanks! Gavin __________________ '03 burgundy allroad

03-02-2004, 09:06 PM	#2
All Italian Junior Member Account #: 41143 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,500	OK here is the short version! Sweet!!! Last Friday went to Matrix Engineering in Portland OR. Got a GIAC tip Chip, cost $375 plus I paid $50 extra to have a socket put in so I could put the OEM chip back in whenever I wanted to. Piece of mind in case it died or I sold the car. Watched the tech pull off the running board from the passenger side then get under the passenger foot area where the trans chip lives. Took him 10 minutes to get it out. 45 minutes to install chip. Results are not breath taken at first but as you drive you begin to see that all the shifting in D,S or tip is faster. You notice less drops in RPM's between shifts in all programs. In tip it is a blast almost like a 5 speed. The difference is like an 18 year old boy VS aunt Betty at the drag strip. Chip tip is the boy This is the only mod my wife has ever noticed!!! She says to me! "What did you do to that wagon it does not lag when shifting from reverse to drive anymore"? This is true even at a stand still the dreaded delay from R to D is gone. This has been a sore point for many of us on this forum and here is a way to get rid of it for good. Driving in D and S is also nice because you can see and feel the quicker shifts. The more aggressive you are the more you appreciate the faster shifts. In short this is a worthwhile mod that will improve performance and get ride of some of the lag problems with the slush box. I would think that this would be a must before you do an ECU chip and it is darn nice even if you don't do the engine chip! Hope this helps all you tip drivers out there. GIAC is the only maker of this tip chip. __________________ 2003 Allroad, Atlas gray, Tip, SOLD! Nav,park, V1 hardwired! Ice-Link iPod installed. Mud flaps, Stuby antenna. 245/45/18 OEM & PZero Rosso, summer 225/55/17 OEM & Nokian RSi, winter H-sport sways ! My H-sport install! The 402 Mod (how to)! Bosch N110 BPV GIAC Tip Chip My GIAC Tip Chip install! APR ECU Chip, stock/91 octane My APR install! Llumar tint 35% F&R All window's controled from remote! Window codes! 2003 Eurovan weekender To many bicycles to mention!!!

03-03-2004, 07:19 AM	#3
allroad'Ed now Senior Member Account #: 8639 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,170	Good feedback! How's the throttle lag?..... In other words, when pulling away from a light, if I'm too quick going from brake to gas (or left foot brake), there is no boost for several seconds. I know this is programmed in, but did the tip chip help this too? If so, that's my next mod! __________________ formerly known as: Ed's A6Q now allroad '02 allroad Light Silver/Platinum- gone but not forgotten H-Sport (stealth black) RS6 Exhaust 20% Tint Bluetoothed for Razr Sym II with XM Summer street- 18x8 BBS RX 245/45-18 Toyo T1R 20mm H&R spacers Per my wife:"A station wagon shouldn't be this damn fast!" Other current toys: '04 BMW X5 4.4 Tow vehicle '97 BMW 528I, 95K miles, dead stock '86 911 track toy, 190,000K miles and just a few mods Previously: 98 A6Q 93 100CS 86 5000 CSQ

03-03-2004, 08:11 AM	#4
rr_allroad Junior Member Account #: 41241 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 718	Re: Good feedback! How's the throttle lag?..... That lag (BTL syndrome) is an issue that is not addressed by the GIAC. I replied to your other post about your reflash. __________________ ************************************************ ********************************* Motorcycle WebSite * Drive Low - Park High (allroadguy) * I've got mad tippin' skillz (unknown - S4 forum) * It's an allroad thing - you wouldn't understand. (MarkBostonC)

03-03-2004, 08:24 AM	#5
All Italian Junior Member Account #: 41143 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,500	It will still be there when hard braking then hiting the gas. But time delay between shifts gets you there quicker. But this chip won't fix the throttle lag! But using tip mode will. __________________ 2003 Allroad, Atlas gray, Tip, SOLD! Nav,park, V1 hardwired! Ice-Link iPod installed. Mud flaps, Stuby antenna. 245/45/18 OEM & PZero Rosso, summer 225/55/17 OEM & Nokian RSi, winter H-sport sways ! My H-sport install! The 402 Mod (how to)! Bosch N110 BPV GIAC Tip Chip My GIAC Tip Chip install! APR ECU Chip, stock/91 octane My APR install! Llumar tint 35% F&R All window's controled from remote! Window codes! 2003 Eurovan weekender To many bicycles to mention!!!

03-03-2004, 09:10 AM	#6
allroad(s) lead 2Gavin AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 6541 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,149	Your ECU stock? __________________ '03 burgundy allroad

03-03-2004, 11:48 AM	#7
Ming 2.7T Craggy Old Man Account #: 4525 Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,615	"Lag will still be there even with Giac Tip chip". Use 1/2 to 3/4 throttle, better response But A Giac Tranny chip will give you quicker shifts. Stock 0-60 was a best of 6.45 seconds usually between 6.45 and 6.60. With the Tranny chip it was 6.15-6.30. That was using only 1 shift 1-2, since 2nd goes past 60mph. In 1/4 mile it was about a .25-.40 difference at the strip, which added the 2-3 shift. The Giac chip "may" also hunt in Tip mode between 4th and 5th at 4000rpm's. But with all it pluses, I say it out weighs this quirk. YOu should have driven my car, maybe next time. __________________ Stay Stock and Stay Almost Worry Free!!! Like Me!!!! Stoney's FAQ's> Yea, though I drive in the Valley of the Shadow of the V8, I shall fear no V8 for the V6 is with me. Thy 2.7 liters and thy 2 K04's comfort me. Thou shall prepare boost at my call against the V8 that troubles me. Thou annointest my V6 with Mobil One Oil, and my psi shall runneth over. Thy loving smoothness and torqueness shall follow me all the days of my driving and I will dwell in the house of the V6 Bi-Turbo forever!!!!!! ET 1/4mi 13.6 Email for Tip tranny/K03 $$ info.

03-03-2004, 11:51 AM	#8
rr_allroad Junior Member Account #: 41241 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 718	Re: TIP Mode will Sorry Italian.... TIP mode doesn't make BTL syndrome disappear. __________________ ************************************************ ********************************* Motorcycle WebSite * Drive Low - Park High (allroadguy) * I've got mad tippin' skillz (unknown - S4 forum) * It's an allroad thing - you wouldn't understand. (MarkBostonC)

08-05-2004, 06:51 PM	#9
jtannertate New Member Account #: 78756 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16	L:ong live the V6 Biturbo I like your poetry- Long live the biturbo my brother.

08-05-2004, 06:59 PM	#10
jtannertate New Member Account #: 78756 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16	where to have the Giac tip ship installed I live in NYC and have been haveing problems finding a shop to install my chip. Any suggestions. Thanks

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