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Old 08-03-2006, 02:48 PM   #1
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Default Recent install - 2005 A4 sedan

Had a forum member from out of state recently bring us his 2005 A4 for an audio upgrade.

He'd already done a number of upgrades - RNS-E, Sat, a basic amp driving a 10" sub in a prefab box, and several other vehicle mods.

He had us install an excellent system - Dynaudio System 240GT component midwoofers and tweeters in the front doors, a DLS Iridium 10" sub stealthed into the driver's rear corner of the trunk, and two Zapco amps, a DC350.2 for the doors and a DC500.1 for the front.

Both amps are fan cooled, so mounting them upside down under the package tray was no problem, and they are hard to spot unless you drop your head under the trunk opening edge. Each amp has a 10-band parametric EQ and digital input and output level settings, and very flexible internal crossover filters, all controllable by a PC with USB. Also, each amp comes with a stereo Symbilink balanced line-driver transmitter. We installed these behind the radio, using wires we inserted into his RNS-E adapter, and ran shielded balanced line from the RNS-E into the trunk for the amps. This took a lot of load off of the preamp section of the RNS-E and improved the sound (better detail than the other way).

The Dynaudio tweeters are good-sized and play a lot of midrange, but Dyne allows us to take them out of the casing for installations like this. The net effect is an elevated image since the tweeters are almost perfectly angled by Audi and the crossover lets them play so low.

The Dynaudio midwoofers have a three-inch voice coil and so the midbass from the door is very quick and tight. Even though the subwoofer is in the back, these drivers play low with authority and really support the illusion that all the bass is up front.

The DLS Iridium 10" has been in several IASCA winning show cars in the last few years, including the Finnish S4 that won its class in Europe. It's in a fiberglass-reinforced enclosure that is prism-shaped on the backside, with 1/4" MDF sides and a 3/4" MDF baffle, and then fiberglassed on top of that.

This was a great-sounding system and we were very happy with the results. Bass notes on Soul Coughing and Morphine's Cure for Pain had texture to them, not just thuddiness. Acoustic drum notes (Clark Terry Live at the Village Gate) were immediate and had slam to them. The air around the top end - from the tweeters - was excellent for a car system.

The whole thing retained OEM appearance and functionality, and provided excellent results. It took two and a half days to install, the biggest chunk of the time being spent on the subwoofer.

For reference, a system like runs around $3250 installed.

Woofer pics:
http://www.dls.se/speakers/IR10_front_grille_F.jpg
http://www.dls.se/speakers/IR10_rear_F.jpg

Components:
http://www.dynaudiousa.com/products/car/mfpicts/sys240gt.jpg

Amps:
http://www.zapco.com/images/Amps_Small/Ref_DC/Ref_DC350.2_Small.jpg
http://www.zapco.com/images/Amps_Small/Ref_DC/Ref_DC500.1_Small.jpg<ul><li><a href="http://kward1.homestead.com/2005A4upgrade.html">A few pics</a></li></ul>
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Old 08-03-2006, 04:14 PM   #2
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Default neat install! just curious... can one fit a Kicker 12" L5 SB in the same spot?

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Old 08-03-2006, 04:53 PM   #3
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Default Nice install...I really like how you did the sub enclosure

and based on the components used, it must sound fantastic
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:05 PM   #4
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Default Maybe... the DLS woofer is 5.25 deep, and we've fit an IDMAX 10" back there

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Old 08-03-2006, 05:13 PM   #5
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Default Nice work Ken. Adding line outs from the RNS-E is pretty easy....isn't it? :)

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As of November 2006:

Accessory Add-ons:
(Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.)
1) OEM winter floor mats
2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net
3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight
4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box

Upgrades:
(Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.)
1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant)
http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml
2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory)
3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com)
4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button
5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors
6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim
7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings
8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required)
9) ?
10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input
11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E
12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield
13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E)
14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!!
15) ?
16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires)
17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips
18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM)
19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails
20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E
21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme
22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior)
23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter)
24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan)
25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!)
26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control
27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module

Coming soon:
- rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel

MODifications:
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1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter
2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module.
3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip
4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E
5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!)
6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE
7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above)
8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening.


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Old 08-03-2006, 05:20 PM   #6
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Default Easier with a retrofit than when it came factory-installed : )

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Old 08-03-2006, 06:33 PM   #7
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Default There's a mesh grille behind the fabric.

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:44 PM   #8
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Default I don't know about a B6 but on my B5 it would have been a tight squeeze

My installer and I looked into it before we started my install. The 12" sub would have had to tilt into the trunk space quite a bit to fit. Since I didn't want the enclosure to protrude into the trunk space, I decided to stick with a 10".
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:34 AM   #9
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Default Wouldn't it have been better to ditch the plastic speaker mounts on the doors?

and use something a bit more substantial like MDF rings. Just curious as this is how I upgraded my doors as there didn't seem to be any way to seperate the speaker from the mounts on the non-Bose units.
But the bass from the amp/speaker upgrade was impressive.
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:30 PM   #10
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Default Bose are two-part, non-Bose are integrally molded

If they structurally don't flex, mechanically there's no loss.

The Bose rings are very sturdy, and fit perfectly - it would be hard to sell a customer on the labor to replace them. They are not flimsy whatsoever.

Unfortunately, we can't buy them from the dealer without the driver in an assembly - the audi PN seems to be a raw assembly PN and not a parts dept PN.
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