DEFCON1 > all other mods put together?

l33tt · 12-01-2006, 07:11 AM

Not sure I can make that statement, but it's close! Nothing translates to smiles more quickly than a car that does EXACTLY what you tell it to do WHEN you tell it.

Preinstall Worries: (1) My car was already handling the way I like, with 19 mm rear and 22 mm front Neuspeed bars, KW coilovers, Bridgestone RE-01Rs (with super stiff sidewalls and superglue compound on forged fat fives). Why mess with something that is working? (2) With my 3 VF Engineering mounts, I had a nice direct feel to everything already. Wasn't sure that I needed anything that would add to the NVH equation. (3) I had put in new PowerFlex front and fresh OEM Mk1 rear bushes in the control arms just before TT-West last May, and things were not at all sloppy. Did I really need this? (4) Even though the install sounded straightforward, I just didn't have the energy to deal with all the pressing and hammering.

Postinstall Nirvana: (1) I thought my car handled well before, but I was so totally, hopelessly, cluelessly wrong. The adjectives which follow are in some cases counterintuitive to my expectations, but here they are: The car feels lighter, smoother, more supple, easier to handle, less twitchy, dead flat neutral (at least I was expecting/hoping for that), more solid but with less (!) vibration. (2) Is there some weird harmonic damping going on because the car just feels like it has a new resonant frequency that exactly complements and cancels some of the preinstall NVH? I don't know and I might be hallucinating, but if that's the case this is one strong placebo. (3) Yeah, I needed this more than I needed my StopTechs (which continue to amaze me every time I nudge the brakes). (4) Mike swapped a set of arms with everying already pressed in, so the install was a complete snap. If the Modshack can set up a system to ship ready-to-install arms (plus a refundable core charge to get the old ones back) then everyone can get this done.

Final thoughts: I don't want to spend anymore time typing these impressions. I WANT TO DRIVE!

DEFCON1 FTW!

TToplessTTs · 12-01-2006, 07:15 AM

GorTT · 12-01-2006, 07:33 AM

ZGTT · 12-01-2006, 07:33 AM

cant wait for he car to return from the body shop to get them installed. All the positive feed back (pun intended) has me very eager for the post install drive - thanks for the review.

GorTT · 12-01-2006, 07:37 AM

ZGTT · 12-01-2006, 07:40 AM

Just got off the phone with the brother in law and the parts are painted - just need to bake and do final assembly.

we will see.

GorTT · 12-01-2006, 07:42 AM

Lowcountry · 12-01-2006, 07:44 AM

Sully · 12-01-2006, 07:49 AM

I'd do it if I bought some good control arms at a wrecking yard and sent them to Mike for install. Hmmm, maybe we could make a group effort and buy up all the control arms country wide at wrecking yards, recondition them and make them ready for the DEFCON mod? I would certainly be a candidate, but not until I trade my current FWD TT for a newer 225 very soon.

MCPaudiTT - DEFCON 1 · 12-01-2006, 08:10 AM

few times to a limited audience. I am not yet ready to open this option up to a wider audience, but will likely do it in January.

12-01-2006, 07:11 AM	#1
l33tt Junior Member Account #: 10687 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 899	DEFCON1 > all other mods put together? Not sure I can make that statement, but it's close! Nothing translates to smiles more quickly than a car that does EXACTLY what you tell it to do WHEN you tell it. Preinstall Worries: (1) My car was already handling the way I like, with 19 mm rear and 22 mm front Neuspeed bars, KW coilovers, Bridgestone RE-01Rs (with super stiff sidewalls and superglue compound on forged fat fives). Why mess with something that is working? (2) With my 3 VF Engineering mounts, I had a nice direct feel to everything already. Wasn't sure that I needed anything that would add to the NVH equation. (3) I had put in new PowerFlex front and fresh OEM Mk1 rear bushes in the control arms just before TT-West last May, and things were not at all sloppy. Did I really need this? (4) Even though the install sounded straightforward, I just didn't have the energy to deal with all the pressing and hammering. Postinstall Nirvana: (1) I thought my car handled well before, but I was so totally, hopelessly, cluelessly wrong. The adjectives which follow are in some cases counterintuitive to my expectations, but here they are: The car feels lighter, smoother, more supple, easier to handle, less twitchy, dead flat neutral (at least I was expecting/hoping for that), more solid but with less (!) vibration. (2) Is there some weird harmonic damping going on because the car just feels like it has a new resonant frequency that exactly complements and cancels some of the preinstall NVH? I don't know and I might be hallucinating, but if that's the case this is one strong placebo. (3) Yeah, I needed this more than I needed my StopTechs (which continue to amaze me every time I nudge the brakes). (4) Mike swapped a set of arms with everying already pressed in, so the install was a complete snap. If the Modshack can set up a system to ship ready-to-install arms (plus a refundable core charge to get the old ones back) then everyone can get this done. Final thoughts: I don't want to spend anymore time typing these impressions. I WANT TO DRIVE! DEFCON1 FTW! __________________ [/img]

12-01-2006, 07:15 AM	#2
TToplessTTs Member Account #: 115283 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 663	I like the ready to install option too.

12-01-2006, 07:33 AM	#3
GorTT AudiWorld Super User Account #: 53277 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 10,199	yeah! __________________ 2001 FWD BMC CDA/MOFO/Samco TIP/Boost Machine/K04 Turbo/APR K04 software/P&P exhaust mani/Tectonics DP & High-Flow Cat/Milltek Cat-Back/Forge FMIC/Forge RS/SFS DV relo/EVOheatshield/Dahlback intake mani with a little custom plumbing ;-)/Adjustable FPR/Denso IK 22's/KMD pulley/Quaife LSD/Sachs Power Clutch/Autotech LW Flywheel///H&R 20f 25r/KW V1's/VF engine mounts/Cool-looking Powder-coated Valve Cover/Braille Lightweight Battery/MassDamper elective surgery ;-)/Neuspeed 28mm Rear/BBS RE 18x8/Mich 245/35 PS2's/Defcon's/H2S Sphericals ;-)/Wilwood Superlite 13" BBK F with some decent low-temp track pads - stops on a dime (no change, but a dollar isn't what it used to be, is it?)/Precision 12" R///De-spoiled and de-antenna'd/Charactere Grille/Euro headlights/Smoked corners/Smoked side markers/Q-S Rear seat delete/Raffi Race 3/Dieselgeek Race/Vent mount Defi D Boost & Oil Temp.

12-01-2006, 07:33 AM	#4
ZGTT AudiWorld Super User Account #: 30768 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 19,267	mine are in a box next to the bed... cant wait for he car to return from the body shop to get them installed. All the positive feed back (pun intended) has me very eager for the post install drive - thanks for the review. __________________

12-01-2006, 07:37 AM	#5
GorTT AudiWorld Super User Account #: 53277 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 10,199	that's today, right? __________________ 2001 FWD BMC CDA/MOFO/Samco TIP/Boost Machine/K04 Turbo/APR K04 software/P&P exhaust mani/Tectonics DP & High-Flow Cat/Milltek Cat-Back/Forge FMIC/Forge RS/SFS DV relo/EVOheatshield/Dahlback intake mani with a little custom plumbing ;-)/Adjustable FPR/Denso IK 22's/KMD pulley/Quaife LSD/Sachs Power Clutch/Autotech LW Flywheel///H&R 20f 25r/KW V1's/VF engine mounts/Cool-looking Powder-coated Valve Cover/Braille Lightweight Battery/MassDamper elective surgery ;-)/Neuspeed 28mm Rear/BBS RE 18x8/Mich 245/35 PS2's/Defcon's/H2S Sphericals ;-)/Wilwood Superlite 13" BBK F with some decent low-temp track pads - stops on a dime (no change, but a dollar isn't what it used to be, is it?)/Precision 12" R///De-spoiled and de-antenna'd/Charactere Grille/Euro headlights/Smoked corners/Smoked side markers/Q-S Rear seat delete/Raffi Race 3/Dieselgeek Race/Vent mount Defi D Boost & Oil Temp.

12-01-2006, 07:40 AM	#6
ZGTT AudiWorld Super User Account #: 30768 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 19,267	hopefully... Just got off the phone with the brother in law and the parts are painted - just need to bake and do final assembly. we will see. __________________

12-01-2006, 07:42 AM	#7
GorTT AudiWorld Super User Account #: 53277 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 10,199	sounds like; it's early yet. __________________ 2001 FWD BMC CDA/MOFO/Samco TIP/Boost Machine/K04 Turbo/APR K04 software/P&P exhaust mani/Tectonics DP & High-Flow Cat/Milltek Cat-Back/Forge FMIC/Forge RS/SFS DV relo/EVOheatshield/Dahlback intake mani with a little custom plumbing ;-)/Adjustable FPR/Denso IK 22's/KMD pulley/Quaife LSD/Sachs Power Clutch/Autotech LW Flywheel///H&R 20f 25r/KW V1's/VF engine mounts/Cool-looking Powder-coated Valve Cover/Braille Lightweight Battery/MassDamper elective surgery ;-)/Neuspeed 28mm Rear/BBS RE 18x8/Mich 245/35 PS2's/Defcon's/H2S Sphericals ;-)/Wilwood Superlite 13" BBK F with some decent low-temp track pads - stops on a dime (no change, but a dollar isn't what it used to be, is it?)/Precision 12" R///De-spoiled and de-antenna'd/Charactere Grille/Euro headlights/Smoked corners/Smoked side markers/Q-S Rear seat delete/Raffi Race 3/Dieselgeek Race/Vent mount Defi D Boost & Oil Temp.

12-01-2006, 07:44 AM	#8
Lowcountry AudiWorld Super User Account #: 94508 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,702	Me too. I have no access to a drill press. __________________ My current ride (and home): '90 Island Packet 35 '01 225QR Nimbus/Baseball Performance: APR stage III+ Modshack boost machine Hyperboost DV Modified 42DD testpipe Neuspeed Cat-back exhaust Stoptech stage II Spec stage II clutch Koni Sport shocks and struts DEFCON 2 H&R springs Full KMAC Neuspeed 19mm rear sway bar Axxis ceramic pads AWE boost gauge Kumho Ecsta MX's Aesthetics: OEM 3-bar grill Riso clear corners H&R 15/25mm spacers Flik Justice 18's Events: Turn 1 Motorsports HPDE @ CMP 11/06 Quattro de Mayo 2007, 2008 TT-East 2007 Recon I and II TT-East 2007 local assistant to the organizer and attendee 'TT-Southeast 2007' instigator and attendee TT-East 2007 Flatbed Award winner :-( TT-East 2008

12-01-2006, 07:49 AM	#9
Sully Member Account #: 65327 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,361	Ready to install arms? I'd do it if I bought some good control arms at a wrecking yard and sent them to Mike for install. Hmmm, maybe we could make a group effort and buy up all the control arms country wide at wrecking yards, recondition them and make them ready for the DEFCON mod? I would certainly be a candidate, but not until I trade my current FWD TT for a newer 225 very soon.

12-01-2006, 08:10 AM	#10
MCPaudiTT - DEFCON 1 AudiWorld Super User Account #: 83654 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,903	I have done some searching, and they are hard to come by... I have one set that has been swapped a few times to a limited audience. I am not yet ready to open this option up to a wider audience, but will likely do it in January. __________________ Got a question about your TT? Try searching the TT-FAQ! Got DEFCON? My FOTKI

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode


Discussion Forums:	Advanced Search