Update: FMIC piping done, 4" intake done

sTTanford · 10-04-2002, 09:37 PM

Spent the afternoon at Tomas. Hoover, from turbohoses.com, came through with a custom 4" 90° hight-temp silcone elbow, twice the thickness of their normal elbows (2-day turn-around!). Also dropped off some pretty sweet constant-torque 4" hose clamps, and some 2.5" hump hoses, elbows, etc., to complete the FMIC piping.

Flexpipe, 02 sensor ports, and wastegate dump tube will go in on Wednesday. Hopefully I'll finally get around to machining my wastgate mount bracket before then. Pretty much done designing my new MAF setup, but I guess I could still start it w/o a MAF. Probably ggoing to eventually make some aluminum fittings for the crank breather to attach to the intake, etc.

ordered a couple too many. only ended up needing one. thanks to burnsstainless.com

driver side FMIC piping. couldn't navigate the tight spot in front of the battery with mandrel bent piping, unfortuantely.

passenger-side IC piping. clears axle and crank pulley. gonna need a stablizing bracket off the block though...

this thing could consume small animals! YEA HUM!

More Pictures

Bob W. · 10-04-2002, 09:58 PM

Power5 · 10-04-2002, 10:01 PM

Are you running a 4" pipe everywhere on the entire intake? What difference do you think a 3" would make. I was thinking of going this route with the same gt30 turbo. Are you going to run a standalone? What have you done for the injectors? Figured out anything yet?

TIA

sTTanford · 10-04-2002, 10:09 PM

yup, you can see the 4" elbow at the base of the aluminum pipe, that goes right on to the compressor. i honestly can't say whether a 3" would have been better or not. eventually, i wanna run 580cc's worth of injectors, and since that turbo will really suck air at full boost, i figured i could get away with a 4".

yah, if the MAF doesn't work out, i might have to go stand-alone. havent decided if i want your typical stand-alone setup or possibly even an ECU emulator. cost is about the same, but an emulator doesnt require an extra set of sensors. anyway, that stuff will work itself out is it becomes necessary.

injecors are same as Apr's stg3, 360cc off the 225TT. I'm gonna copy APR's setup: up the fuel pump (probably inline one), 4bar FPR. proly put me up to around 400cc/min, which should get me well over the 300whp goal.

RollingMammal · 10-04-2002, 10:11 PM

just checking. =) That is a certifiably dopeafied project.

Lightweight-USPowah · 10-04-2002, 10:17 PM

You said you designed the system, but if I understand correctly you didn't do any theoretical checks.. or did you?

If the amount of air that the turbo can pull in, is available information then you can easily check the velocity...

mcgilla · 10-04-2002, 10:34 PM

Is that pipe swagged prior to the 90 intake of the FMIC?

mcgilla

sTTanford · 10-04-2002, 11:58 PM

i'll post my turbo specs and such when i get it scanned. i'm gonna put together a webpage eventually that'll have all my theoretical calculations.

the 4" is overkill for the 360cc injectors. once (or if) i get the secondary injectors to work, or find bigger injectors that work, then the 4" might be more effective.

i have to admit, altho i ran thru the turbo specs, the 4" compressor inlet and the turbo choice was george's (of ATP) idea. so altho i knew the performance specs i was going for at the time, it was him who suggested the turbo, i cant take credit for taht. sorry if i am giving the impression that this is all 100% me. initially, the project was in George's hands, then I decided i wanted more control of it. now, Tomas sports tuning has been involved (Tim, Ken, and Andy), and George still helps a bit. this project definitely has had a lot of contributors. sean helped out with the intake manifold and FMIC too!

sTTanford · 10-04-2002, 11:59 PM

sTTanford · 10-05-2002, 12:00 AM

10-04-2002, 09:37 PM	#1
sTTanford Junior Member Account #: 24809 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,409	Update: FMIC piping done, 4" intake done Spent the afternoon at Tomas. Hoover, from turbohoses.com, came through with a custom 4" 90° hight-temp silcone elbow, twice the thickness of their normal elbows (2-day turn-around!). Also dropped off some pretty sweet constant-torque 4" hose clamps, and some 2.5" hump hoses, elbows, etc., to complete the FMIC piping. Flexpipe, 02 sensor ports, and wastegate dump tube will go in on Wednesday. Hopefully I'll finally get around to machining my wastgate mount bracket before then. Pretty much done designing my new MAF setup, but I guess I could still start it w/o a MAF. Probably ggoing to eventually make some aluminum fittings for the crank breather to attach to the intake, etc. ordered a couple too many. only ended up needing one. thanks to burnsstainless.com driver side FMIC piping. couldn't navigate the tight spot in front of the battery with mandrel bent piping, unfortuantely. passenger-side IC piping. clears axle and crank pulley. gonna need a stablizing bracket off the block though... this thing could consume small animals! YEA HUM! More Pictures __________________ -Ken Project BOOSTTT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 Intake Manifold Project: 1 GReddy Turbo Timer install GReddy Profec-B Install sTTanford's Fotki Account

10-04-2002, 09:58 PM	#2
Bob W. AudiWorld Super User Account #: 414 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 24,323	ur hardcore dood!...you should consider putting together a kit and selling it for profit!

10-04-2002, 10:01 PM	#3
Power5 Junior Member Account #: 21940 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,741	What is the big hoop pipe near the fire wall? Are you running a 4" pipe everywhere on the entire intake? What difference do you think a 3" would make. I was thinking of going this route with the same gt30 turbo. Are you going to run a standalone? What have you done for the injectors? Figured out anything yet? TIA __________________ Aaron Cincinnati, OH 2001 TT 225 blk/blk(13.6@98mph w/1.7 60') 3" CB with Flowmaster and H&R Coilovers 1992 Passat Wagon aka: the draggin wagon

10-04-2002, 10:09 PM	#4
sTTanford Junior Member Account #: 24809 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,409	this one? that is turbo->IC piping yup, you can see the 4" elbow at the base of the aluminum pipe, that goes right on to the compressor. i honestly can't say whether a 3" would have been better or not. eventually, i wanna run 580cc's worth of injectors, and since that turbo will really suck air at full boost, i figured i could get away with a 4". yah, if the MAF doesn't work out, i might have to go stand-alone. havent decided if i want your typical stand-alone setup or possibly even an ECU emulator. cost is about the same, but an emulator doesnt require an extra set of sensors. anyway, that stuff will work itself out is it becomes necessary. injecors are same as Apr's stg3, 360cc off the 225TT. I'm gonna copy APR's setup: up the fuel pump (probably inline one), 4bar FPR. proly put me up to around 400cc/min, which should get me well over the 300whp goal. __________________ -Ken Project BOOSTTT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 Intake Manifold Project: 1 GReddy Turbo Timer install GReddy Profec-B Install sTTanford's Fotki Account

10-04-2002, 10:11 PM	#5
RollingMammal New Member Account #: 20998 Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 334	Your warranty is still valid right? . . . just checking. =) That is a certifiably dopeafied project. __________________ 2001 180QC, Desert Green, Premium, Audio Skip Barber Modified Driver 2001 TT-West Attendee Dave, Pleasant Hill, California RollingMammal@comcast.net

10-04-2002, 10:17 PM	#6
Lightweight-USPowah AudiWorld Super User Account #: 25882 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 11,261	What type of air will the turbocharger be pulling in? You said you designed the system, but if I understand correctly you didn't do any theoretical checks.. or did you? If the amount of air that the turbo can pull in, is available information then you can easily check the velocity... __________________ 5.7 Liters of Forced American Muscle: 2 + 8 = 715 6.0 Liters of American AWDrivin Muscle & 599ccs of Japanese Track Samurai (ninja style) http://public.fotki.com/johnjacobjingleheimer/

10-04-2002, 10:34 PM	#7
mcgilla Junior Member Account #: 40046 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,537	Re: Update: FMIC piping done, 4" intake done Is that pipe swagged prior to the 90 intake of the FMIC? mcgilla

10-04-2002, 11:58 PM	#8
sTTanford Junior Member Account #: 24809 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,409	i did, but depends on what size injectors i run i'll post my turbo specs and such when i get it scanned. i'm gonna put together a webpage eventually that'll have all my theoretical calculations. the 4" is overkill for the 360cc injectors. once (or if) i get the secondary injectors to work, or find bigger injectors that work, then the 4" might be more effective. i have to admit, altho i ran thru the turbo specs, the 4" compressor inlet and the turbo choice was george's (of ATP) idea. so altho i knew the performance specs i was going for at the time, it was him who suggested the turbo, i cant take credit for taht. sorry if i am giving the impression that this is all 100% me. initially, the project was in George's hands, then I decided i wanted more control of it. now, Tomas sports tuning has been involved (Tim, Ken, and Andy), and George still helps a bit. this project definitely has had a lot of contributors. sean helped out with the intake manifold and FMIC too! __________________ -Ken Project BOOSTTT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 Intake Manifold Project: 1 GReddy Turbo Timer install GReddy Profec-B Install sTTanford's Fotki Account

10-04-2002, 11:59 PM	#9
sTTanford Junior Member Account #: 24809 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,409	post. it'll get welded once fitment is finalized. __________________ -Ken Project BOOSTTT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 Intake Manifold Project: 1 GReddy Turbo Timer install GReddy Profec-B Install sTTanford's Fotki Account

10-05-2002, 12:00 AM	#10
sTTanford Junior Member Account #: 24809 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,409	what's this war-ran-tee of which you speak?! __________________ -Ken Project BOOSTTT: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 Intake Manifold Project: 1 GReddy Turbo Timer install GReddy Profec-B Install sTTanford's Fotki Account

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