What are everyones feelings on water/methanol injection kits?

asm72ecko · 07-31-2008, 05:22 PM

and why? Im thinking about getting a kit but am not sure how our cars will do with it. Anyone with experience?

blAck6 (desairs) · 07-31-2008, 05:22 PM

4Driver4 · 07-31-2008, 05:43 PM

KillA6 · 07-31-2008, 07:12 PM

full stage 3. I'll be full stage 3 by summers end this year but my wallet will be strained.

I hear lots of good things about it. They just had a group buy from VAST for their kit.

rageman · 07-31-2008, 07:38 PM

I don't have a timing log graphed, but I think that I was ~10º without the meth and 18º with. Here is an IAT log:

Poor resolution as VAG-COM is all I have to work with - and RPM scale is not accurate across all runs (temp is though).

audikillsbmw · 07-31-2008, 08:27 PM

are unable to install large enough intercoolers, drop compression to a low enough level, etc.) They can certainly be used in conjunction with a functioning system though.

audifreakjim · 07-31-2008, 09:25 PM

Li3ny · 08-01-2008, 08:20 AM

I gave it a shot for a while, it definatly got my AITs down. But I couldn't... or I should say I'm not confident enough to really tweak it myself. I had issues w/ my car running lean. It also started having cold start symptoms again, except without the starting part. I just couldn't shake the idle surges. Spoke w/ ASP who said they could tune it, I just never got around to it. Ultimatly I just ended up ordering bigger intercoolers(ERs), a lot less hassle and safe for the motor.

07-31-2008, 05:22 PM	#1
asm72ecko New Member Account #: 128087 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 143	What are everyones feelings on water/methanol injection kits? and why? Im thinking about getting a kit but am not sure how our cars will do with it. Anyone with experience? __________________ 2001 Audi A6 2.7t: Special Edition, Sport Package, Black on Black, APR 93 octane program, Navigation, Bose Audio, APR Bipipe, 710N's, IPP Intercoolers, Custom 2.5" Exhaust, Stage 2 Darintake, ABD Racing Big Bore intake, H-sport sway bar kit, Slotted/Drilled Rotors

07-31-2008, 05:22 PM	#2
blAck6 (desairs) Audiworld Junior Member Account #: 134622 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 828	check the b5 s4 forums. you might get help there

07-31-2008, 05:43 PM	#3
4Driver4 Tech Guru Account #: 43812 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 27,960	Why do you need a kit? What is the goal? __________________ 4Driver4 "Never give up the throttle until the bitter end." -RC 1990 Coupe Q 1999 A6 Sedan Q 2.8 2000 A4 Avant Q 2.8 1995 Mazda Miata: the anti-Audi 1999 Mazda Miata: Track beotch 1999 Chevy Suburban: the anti-earth :-( 1990 Nissan Pickup: Snow plow/garbage hauler 1981 VW Scirocco: the car I shouldn't own

07-31-2008, 07:12 PM	#4
KillA6 Junior Member Account #: 85994 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,777	Do a search in the B5 forum lots of info. I am going to put one in by next summer after I am full stage 3. I'll be full stage 3 by summers end this year but my wallet will be strained. I hear lots of good things about it. They just had a group buy from VAST for their kit. __________________ 2000 A6 2.7 stage 3- Stasis 6-speed trans GIAC Chip KO4's RS6 Intercoolers w/ RS4 encaps 5 bar FPR Hitachi MAF JHM shift linkage upgrade <-- Great upgrade!! 034 track density motor/trans mounts LWFW CM stage 4 clutch <--- crap crap crap!!!!! I switched to resurfaced FW and VAST clutch. So far so good! Piggies APR Snub mount B&M Short shifter H&R sport springs/sway bars Bilstein shocks Magnaflow Mufflers stage 3 fueling/software by ????? Things I need : rear view mirrow (auto dim) myspace.com/ninjaed

07-31-2008, 07:38 PM	#5
rageman New Member Account #: 92262 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 247	Do it! I have a Snow Performance kit on my car - def runs better IATs and timing. I don't have a timing log graphed, but I think that I was ~10º without the meth and 18º with. Here is an IAT log: Poor resolution as VAG-COM is all I have to work with - and RPM scale is not accurate across all runs (temp is though).

07-31-2008, 08:27 PM	#6
audikillsbmw Member Account #: 121340 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15,211	Usually meth kits are used to supplement a system that is less than adequate (i.e. if you are unable to install large enough intercoolers, drop compression to a low enough level, etc.) They can certainly be used in conjunction with a functioning system though. __________________ ************************************************* Johnny B. - OFFICIAL 2007 C5 A6 POST WHORE - - OFFICIAL 2008 C5 A6 POST WHORE - R.I.P. Thor- 10/97-8/08.. I miss you buddy :( Racing Green PE 2000 A6 4.2: All options except warm weather & Sport package... MODS: Bilstein shocks, H&R Sport springs, 18x8.5" wheels (et30) with 235/40's, blacked-out RS6 upper grille, debadged, 15mm (F) and 20mm (R) spacers (SOLD,) Darintake mod (w/screen,) 00032 trans recode, high flow race cats (courtesy of 034 Motorsport,) plain black 3-spoke steering wheel, 605 "mod", painted rear valance, drilled rotors F&R, Metal Master front pads, VAST performance fan, clear corners, and various other things. FUTURE PROJECTS: NONE. She will be gone soon. Previous Rides: 1996 A4 2.8Q 1992 Acura Legend LS sedan 1986 Ford F-250 2WD

07-31-2008, 09:25 PM	#7
audifreakjim AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 3645 Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 1,646	Yellow car runs it, makes a difference on pump gas. __________________ Jim Green '89 90tq 034EFI GT35R http://www.mswanson.com/~jgreen/car_home.html '01 A6, the "ocho" *The wheels are for sale*

08-01-2008, 08:20 AM	#8
Li3ny Junior Member Account #: 81774 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,325	Make sure you have someone who can properly tune it. I gave it a shot for a while, it definatly got my AITs down. But I couldn't... or I should say I'm not confident enough to really tweak it myself. I had issues w/ my car running lean. It also started having cold start symptoms again, except without the starting part. I just couldn't shake the idle surges. Spoke w/ ASP who said they could tune it, I just never got around to it. Ultimatly I just ended up ordering bigger intercoolers(ERs), a lot less hassle and safe for the motor. __________________

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