DIY test of power output stage/ignition amp module N122 (long & BWW)
04-09-2003, 10:27 PM
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DIY test of power output stage/ignition amp module N122 (long & BWW)
Testing Ignition Amplifier/Power Output Stage/Ignition Control Unit/Ignitor
N122
To my knowledge, this part is found exclusively on 97-99.5 A4 1.8T models. However, older 12V V6 engines use a similar part. Email me for specifics.
Disclaimer
Usual disclaimer applies here, I am not responsible for any of your work.
This procedure is done at your own risk, and my write-up is merely a guide
to help you do it (as model years and options vary). That said, this
isn't rocket science, so there's very little risk of anything going wrong.
Background
A few months ago, my N122 module failed. Problem came on suddenly
and was characterized by horrible idle and a blinking check engine light
(CEL) / Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). In researching the Audiworld
archives for possible sources to my problem, my attention immediately turned
to my coil packs. My VAG-COM told me that I was misfiring on cylinder
2. I immediately tried the typical swaps (plugs, ignition coil) between
cylinders to no avail. Cylinder 2 still dead.
At that point, my search took me to the Power Output Stage module N122 (p/n
8D0 905 351 or 4D0 905 351). I've seen at least four different terms
used to describe this part (see heading above). This part is located
on top of the factory air cleaner box as indicated here:
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/N122.gif">
Geeky stuff
The wiring diagram for the ignition system is here:
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/ignition.gif">
Those with experience reading electronic schematics will see that the term
"ignition amplifier" is a bit of a misnomer because this N122 module doesn't
amplify anything. It's a simple switch. It takes impulses from
the ECU (b1, c1, d1, e1) and, in turn, connects the primary coil of each ignition
coil (e.g., terminal 1 of coils N, N128) to ground via terminal 3 on the
5-pin connector on the module. When current can flow through the primary
coil (from terminal 15 to 1 to ground at ground connector 83), this will
excite the secondary coil (from spark plugs P to terminal 4a to ground at
ground connector 18). Then end result is BANG, spark plug firing.
The N122 operates just like a FET (field effect transistor). When an
impulse is detected at the "gate" input (at the 5-pin connector) to the N122,
a conductive path is created between the corresponding "source" terminal
(at the 4-pin connector) and "drain" terminal 3 on the 5-pin connector.
This procedure simply statically verifies this functionality.
Just a note, my pseudo-educated guess for the reason why Audi and VW have
been seeing coil pack problems pertains to this functionality, which was
relocated from this N122 module into the individual coil packs in 2000. Thus,
while newer A4 owners have to deal with coil pack problems, us older A4 1.8T
owners deal with N122 output stage problems. But I digress. On
to troubleshooting.
Once you've swapped spark plugs and ignition coils between misfiring and
known-good cylinders and verified that the misfire stays on the same cylinder,
this procedure will then verify for you whether the problem is indeed a faulty
N122 module. For this procedure you'll need:
Things Needed
1.5 Volt battery (any size, but larger will be easier to physically handle)
1/4" female speaker crimp terminal (optional if you don't have a spare set
of hands)
Multimeter
Foot long piece of speaker wire
Tape
Procedure
First thing you do is strip the ends of the speaker wire and tape one end
of the wire to the battery. Tape one wire to the + end of the battery
and the other wire to the - end of the battery as shown (obligatory watch
for scale). At the opposite end of the + battery wire, crimp on the
1/4" speaker terminal. The opposite end of the - battery wire is simply
stripped.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/battery.jpg">
The next step is to wrap the - battery wire around the common/ground DMM
probe. At this point, battery voltage can be measured simply by touching
the + DMM probe to the speaker terminal. Cheap radio shack battery
doesn't even put out a full 1.5 volts. No matter. Now set the
DMM to measure resistance on a KOhm scale.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/battery%20voltage.jpg">
Next, we hook up the speaker terminal to one of the input "gate" terminals
on the 5-pin connector. At the same time, touch the common/ground DMM
probe to terminal 3 on this same side. This common/ground DMM probe
stays on terminal 3 throughout this procedure. Only the speaker terminal and + DMM probe change positions to measure continuity for all 4 cylinders.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/5%20pin.jpg">
On the 4-pin connector side, touch the + DMM probe to the output terminal
directly opposite the terminal to which the speaker terminal is attached.
In this image, the opposite side connections are omitted for ease of
picture taking. Just bear in mind, the right-most terminal on the 5-pin
side corresponds to the left-most terminal on the 4-pin side. In this
image and the image above, we are checking resistance (continuity) for cylinder
4. The whole setup is shown below.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/4%20pin.jpg">
Here, I'm getting a reading of about 270 ohms. When the car is running,
the ECU probably outputs something like 3.3 or 5 volts. My guess is
that if we applied this much voltage in this test, the resistance would drop closer to
zero ohms. But for purposes of checking proper operation, our 1.5 volts
does the job. On my N122, I got somewhere close to 300 ohms for cylinders
1, 3 and 4...
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/cyl%204%20on.jpg">
But for cylinder 2, my DMM shows a 1, indicating open loop, no continuity,
no ground connection, and hence, no spark. Bottom line, dead N122.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/cyl%202%20dead.jpg">
In performing this test, you should see similar resistance numbers for all
four cylinders. If you find that resistance for any cylinder is abnormally
high or completely open, then the N122 is dead. Call the dealer, visit
your favorite auto parts website, or find a friend with a spare (Thanks Steve!)
and swap out the part for a new one.
N122
To my knowledge, this part is found exclusively on 97-99.5 A4 1.8T models. However, older 12V V6 engines use a similar part. Email me for specifics.
Disclaimer
Usual disclaimer applies here, I am not responsible for any of your work.
This procedure is done at your own risk, and my write-up is merely a guide
to help you do it (as model years and options vary). That said, this
isn't rocket science, so there's very little risk of anything going wrong.
Background
A few months ago, my N122 module failed. Problem came on suddenly
and was characterized by horrible idle and a blinking check engine light
(CEL) / Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). In researching the Audiworld
archives for possible sources to my problem, my attention immediately turned
to my coil packs. My VAG-COM told me that I was misfiring on cylinder
2. I immediately tried the typical swaps (plugs, ignition coil) between
cylinders to no avail. Cylinder 2 still dead.
At that point, my search took me to the Power Output Stage module N122 (p/n
8D0 905 351 or 4D0 905 351). I've seen at least four different terms
used to describe this part (see heading above). This part is located
on top of the factory air cleaner box as indicated here:
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/N122.gif">
Geeky stuff
The wiring diagram for the ignition system is here:
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/ignition.gif">
Those with experience reading electronic schematics will see that the term
"ignition amplifier" is a bit of a misnomer because this N122 module doesn't
amplify anything. It's a simple switch. It takes impulses from
the ECU (b1, c1, d1, e1) and, in turn, connects the primary coil of each ignition
coil (e.g., terminal 1 of coils N, N128) to ground via terminal 3 on the
5-pin connector on the module. When current can flow through the primary
coil (from terminal 15 to 1 to ground at ground connector 83), this will
excite the secondary coil (from spark plugs P to terminal 4a to ground at
ground connector 18). Then end result is BANG, spark plug firing.
The N122 operates just like a FET (field effect transistor). When an
impulse is detected at the "gate" input (at the 5-pin connector) to the N122,
a conductive path is created between the corresponding "source" terminal
(at the 4-pin connector) and "drain" terminal 3 on the 5-pin connector.
This procedure simply statically verifies this functionality.
Just a note, my pseudo-educated guess for the reason why Audi and VW have
been seeing coil pack problems pertains to this functionality, which was
relocated from this N122 module into the individual coil packs in 2000. Thus,
while newer A4 owners have to deal with coil pack problems, us older A4 1.8T
owners deal with N122 output stage problems. But I digress. On
to troubleshooting.
Once you've swapped spark plugs and ignition coils between misfiring and
known-good cylinders and verified that the misfire stays on the same cylinder,
this procedure will then verify for you whether the problem is indeed a faulty
N122 module. For this procedure you'll need:
Things Needed
1.5 Volt battery (any size, but larger will be easier to physically handle)
1/4" female speaker crimp terminal (optional if you don't have a spare set
of hands)
Multimeter
Foot long piece of speaker wire
Tape
Procedure
First thing you do is strip the ends of the speaker wire and tape one end
of the wire to the battery. Tape one wire to the + end of the battery
and the other wire to the - end of the battery as shown (obligatory watch
for scale). At the opposite end of the + battery wire, crimp on the
1/4" speaker terminal. The opposite end of the - battery wire is simply
stripped.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/battery.jpg">
The next step is to wrap the - battery wire around the common/ground DMM
probe. At this point, battery voltage can be measured simply by touching
the + DMM probe to the speaker terminal. Cheap radio shack battery
doesn't even put out a full 1.5 volts. No matter. Now set the
DMM to measure resistance on a KOhm scale.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/battery%20voltage.jpg">
Next, we hook up the speaker terminal to one of the input "gate" terminals
on the 5-pin connector. At the same time, touch the common/ground DMM
probe to terminal 3 on this same side. This common/ground DMM probe
stays on terminal 3 throughout this procedure. Only the speaker terminal and + DMM probe change positions to measure continuity for all 4 cylinders.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/5%20pin.jpg">
On the 4-pin connector side, touch the + DMM probe to the output terminal
directly opposite the terminal to which the speaker terminal is attached.
In this image, the opposite side connections are omitted for ease of
picture taking. Just bear in mind, the right-most terminal on the 5-pin
side corresponds to the left-most terminal on the 4-pin side. In this
image and the image above, we are checking resistance (continuity) for cylinder
4. The whole setup is shown below.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/4%20pin.jpg">
Here, I'm getting a reading of about 270 ohms. When the car is running,
the ECU probably outputs something like 3.3 or 5 volts. My guess is
that if we applied this much voltage in this test, the resistance would drop closer to
zero ohms. But for purposes of checking proper operation, our 1.5 volts
does the job. On my N122, I got somewhere close to 300 ohms for cylinders
1, 3 and 4...
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/cyl%204%20on.jpg">
But for cylinder 2, my DMM shows a 1, indicating open loop, no continuity,
no ground connection, and hence, no spark. Bottom line, dead N122.
<img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~andrewaranda/audi/cyl%202%20dead.jpg">
In performing this test, you should see similar resistance numbers for all
four cylinders. If you find that resistance for any cylinder is abnormally
high or completely open, then the N122 is dead. Call the dealer, visit
your favorite auto parts website, or find a friend with a spare (Thanks Steve!)
and swap out the part for a new one.
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Re: DIY test of power output stage/ignition amp module N122 (long & BWW)
thanks for the great detailed info.... Does anyone know the difference between the two part numbers for the Power Output Stage module N122 (p/n 8D0 905 351 or 4D0 905 351). Best I can find is that one is a beru 8D0 905 351 and the other is a BOSCH 4D0 905 351. I currently have the BOSCH on mine, is that the one I should replace it with? There is about a $120 difference between the two
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Thank you very much for this post.
While I did assume the cylinder 3 misfire on my 2000 AGU 1.8T A3 was down to the Ignition Amplifier, this test confirmed it before I wasted money on a new one that I may not have needed.
Again thank you.
While I did assume the cylinder 3 misfire on my 2000 AGU 1.8T A3 was down to the Ignition Amplifier, this test confirmed it before I wasted money on a new one that I may not have needed.
Again thank you.
