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...as I am just printing a letter to AoA about the lack of response from the local dealer about my open customer complaint. Called AoA twice, now writing letters.
Perhaps it's just the timing, but I can't imagine that Audi gives even half a damn about what it's customers think. To Audi, a bird in the hand is worthless; they focus all efforts on building cars for markets they are trying to capture rather than keep the customers they already have. They come out with conflicting philosphies on a monthy basis. This company has lost its way. <rant/off flamesuit/on>
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While I understand the pure marketing/sales aspect of the issue, it is disappointing to see the trend. I bought my 2.7 purely for the manual transmission. It was cool to have a mid-sized sport sedan with a 6 speed. I know it may be more a thing of the past.
I've driven the A3 & TT's with DSG and I'd have to say, I'd take one in a heartbeat. That transmission is amazing and has more capability than me on smooth shifting on the track, street or where-ever. But back to the discussion of the other day...Where is the soul in an automatic? We are removing more and more personality out of many things in our culture. Take restaurants as an example. There are so many cookie-cutter restaurants springing up all over the US. The are all working feverishly to capture the increasing "eat-out" culture of the US with a medium-priced product. My wife and I were in a new establishment of the mid to upper end in our area recently...the food was very good, the environment was nice, lighting right, excellent service...however the atmosphere felt "manufactured". It just didn't feel right. All of the ingredients where there, but it felt false, without true meaning. I know, I know...it's only food. But, take that to the automobile industry. They are manufacturing products to the widest audience they can find. While Audi has always enjoyed a niche market they continue to expand...which the formula is troubling. What and where is the soul of the brand? Back to the issue at hand. Manual's are about controlling that experience and not relinquishing control to "the machine" per se. I know he points out that they will continue to offer a manual transmission in the R or RS variety...oh, wait...is there a manual RS6 available in the US? I know the RS4 has that option, but I don't know of any S6 or RS6 US model that does (I may not have all the facts tho). Anyway, I hate to let go of the manual and what it means to me. I like them, I'd hate to see them go. But I may be a lone voice in the wind.
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I've lamented many times before that in the relentless persuit of "sophistication" character must be honed away.
I like, respect, and enjoy my (stick) A3. I look forward to driving the Alfa much more - warts and all. It feels like a mechanical device and requires not just my input, but also my finesse. I am part of the whole. Newer cars feel like incredibly developed video game inputs. And maybe to kids brought up playing racing games, that is the feeling they look for?
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4Driver4 "Never give up the throttle until the bitter end." -RC 2005 A6 Sedan Q 3.2 (wife's whip) 2000 A4 Avant Q 2.8 (daily driver) 2003 Mini Cooper S (Fun!) 1995 Mazda Miata: the anti-Audi 1999 Mazda Miata SSB: track beotch 2003 GMC Yukon Denali XL: the anti-earth 2004 Dodge Dakota: hey, at least it's stick and 4x4 |
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I recently had a first time student at the track. In the interview I learned that he had a significantly modified car (TT) but no track experience. In typical form I told him we would be taking it easy for the first few sessions to get "the lay of the land" (and for me to figure out what he knew).
He responded "don't worry, I've driven this track thousands of times in Grand Tourismo" My response: "That's nice, but friend, when you make mistakes here...there ARE consequences, we'll take it easy" You are right on one point, I'd rather drive my old MG Midget than some of these "video game cars". "Thanks for playing, have a nice day" ;-)
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Hats off to anyone who instructs. You guys have no fear - lol
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i think they're already starting. it was pretty difficult to find a manual 07 A4 Avant just now to replace my 03 Avant coming off lease.
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