Retrofitting Xenon autoleveling system in 99 A6

99A6xenonless · 01-19-2005, 09:58 PM

Hey Teddy, or anyone else who has retro-fitted their cars with Xenon housings, what are you thoughts of retro-fitting the autoleveling system in your cars?

I haven't seen a write-up anywhere on how to perform the retrofit, but I'm thinking trying to pursue the install. Any suggestions? Opinions?

**Kris Hansen** · 01-20-2005, 05:13 AM

all of hte necessary wiring, so on and so forth. Probalby not worth the hassle. Easier would be just manually controling the leveling motors.

a_o_smith · 01-20-2005, 06:44 AM

it does not adjust for the road

**Kris Hansen** · 01-20-2005, 06:50 AM

car, be it Audi, Benz, whathaveyou that was loaded to the hilt, I'd have enough for at least a full tank of gas.

TeddyBGame · 01-20-2005, 06:55 AM

on this mod.

Just my .02.

Keep us posted....if you do end up figuring it out. The parts alone would have to be $500+ from the dealer.

Good luck!
-ted

ArtsA6Q · 01-20-2005, 10:46 AM

offset the beam pattern and blind oncomming drivers. The point of the system was never to adjust for the minute bumps in the road...the system is just not that quick enough.

a_o_smith · 01-20-2005, 12:57 PM

ArtsA6Q · 01-20-2005, 03:59 PM

might not seem like much but the further away you get from the source of the light, the higher up the beam pattern projects.

You don't need much math to calculate a few degrees of movement from the front axle as a working axis, and the corresponding movement on the rear axis from the load created by whatever weight was placed in the rear. Multiply arc measurement by as many times the distance of the oncomming car to the wheelbase and you see how small a difference you really need to effect just a few feet of light from a safe region to a dangerous one.

I guess a simplified demonstration could be performed by opening the trunk, positioning the headlights on a source several feet away, then having a friend sit in the trunk. This would exaggerate a given scenario (unless you regularly carry more than a hundred pounds of stuff in the trunk) but would help illustrate the point. Have two people sit in the rear of the car and see what happens.

01-19-2005, 09:58 PM	#1
99A6xenonless New Member Account #: 86530 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4	Retrofitting Xenon autoleveling system in 99 A6 Hey Teddy, or anyone else who has retro-fitted their cars with Xenon housings, what are you thoughts of retro-fitting the autoleveling system in your cars? I haven't seen a write-up anywhere on how to perform the retrofit, but I'm thinking trying to pursue the install. Any suggestions? Opinions?

01-20-2005, 05:13 AM	#2
Kris Hansen Chief of Goat control Account #: 20 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 66,548,190	It would be pretty involved.. you need the sensors for the front and rear axles, all of hte necessary wiring, so on and so forth. Probalby not worth the hassle. Easier would be just manually controling the leveling motors.

01-20-2005, 06:44 AM	#3
a_o_smith AudiWorld Super User Account #: 73987 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,154	why do you care about auto leveling...you know it only adjusts for load in car it does not adjust for the road __________________ Present: 2001 TT 225hp TQM, Valentine One, K40 laser diffuser, and an L7 in the trunk 2008 CBR600RR, Graffiti, integrated tail, F/E, PCIII & exhaust on the way Past: 2001 ming 2.8 >>[?] means i have no idea what im talking about >>My tech articles: tip recode for everyone, dissable running lights, O2 sensor replacement, Lemmiwinks explanation, TT sub install >Questions on theses? email me: aosmith@gmail >>pic poster >>>Manual Tranny Tips, TT Front Plate Removal >>>>Linkedin

01-20-2005, 06:50 AM	#4
Kris Hansen Chief of Goat control Account #: 20 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 66,548,190	That's a pretty good reason though.. If I had a nickel for every time I was blinded by an oncoming.. car, be it Audi, Benz, whathaveyou that was loaded to the hilt, I'd have enough for at least a full tank of gas.

01-20-2005, 06:55 AM	#5
TeddyBGame AudiWorld Super User Account #: 32631 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,784	ditto. Too much work. I would probably buy a new A6 with factory Xenons...before I spent anytime.. on this mod. Just my .02. Keep us posted....if you do end up figuring it out. The parts alone would have to be $500+ from the dealer. Good luck! -ted __________________ TeddyBGame - C5 Avant - "the Beast" (Ha!!) - 2005 Chrysler Pacifica Touring (Nav, Sirius, Bluetooth, Xenon, TPMS, ParkSense, DVD Changer - basically loaded) - 2003 Vespa ET2 (modified exhaust and carb -- so I can max out at 45MPH) - John Deere Gator (4x2) for the boy As of November 2006: Accessory Add-ons: (Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.) 1) OEM winter floor mats 2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net 3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight 4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box Upgrades: (Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.) 1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant) http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml 2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory) 3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com) 4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button 5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors 6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim 7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings 8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required) 9) ? 10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input 11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E 12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield 13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E) 14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!! 15) ? 16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires) 17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips 18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM) 19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails 20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E 21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme 22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior) 23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter) 24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan) 25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!) 26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control 27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module Coming soon: - rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel MODifications: (Definition: Any permenant change to a part or component of your car that you cannot reverse) 1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter 2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module. 3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip 4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E 5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!) 6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE 7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above) 8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening. RNS-E for C5 A6/S6/allroad/RS6 - your quest starts here - (regularly updated) <a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/607331.phtml">OEM submarine fin installed on

01-20-2005, 10:46 AM	#6
ArtsA6Q AudiWorld Super User Account #: 78799 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,522	That is the exact point of auto-leveling. It is to compensate for load, as this could dangerously offset the beam pattern and blind oncomming drivers. The point of the system was never to adjust for the minute bumps in the road...the system is just not that quick enough. __________________ Porsche 996 Turbo S - Full TechArt AeroKit \| 20" TechArt Formula GTS Porsche Cayenne Turbo S - TechArt Magnum Program - ECU, Widebody, Exhaust, Turbo's \| 22" TechArt Formula GTS \| 600bhp / 626lb-ft

01-20-2005, 12:57 PM	#7
a_o_smith AudiWorld Super User Account #: 73987 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,154	but how much load does there have to be to make a significant diffrence? __________________ Present: 2001 TT 225hp TQM, Valentine One, K40 laser diffuser, and an L7 in the trunk 2008 CBR600RR, Graffiti, integrated tail, F/E, PCIII & exhaust on the way Past: 2001 ming 2.8 >>[?] means i have no idea what im talking about >>My tech articles: tip recode for everyone, dissable running lights, O2 sensor replacement, Lemmiwinks explanation, TT sub install >Questions on theses? email me: aosmith@gmail >>pic poster >>>Manual Tranny Tips, TT Front Plate Removal >>>>Linkedin

01-20-2005, 03:59 PM	#8
ArtsA6Q AudiWorld Super User Account #: 78799 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,522	Not much at all. Just think, a few pounds in the trunk and you could be off by a few degrees, which might not seem like much but the further away you get from the source of the light, the higher up the beam pattern projects. You don't need much math to calculate a few degrees of movement from the front axle as a working axis, and the corresponding movement on the rear axis from the load created by whatever weight was placed in the rear. Multiply arc measurement by as many times the distance of the oncomming car to the wheelbase and you see how small a difference you really need to effect just a few feet of light from a safe region to a dangerous one. I guess a simplified demonstration could be performed by opening the trunk, positioning the headlights on a source several feet away, then having a friend sit in the trunk. This would exaggerate a given scenario (unless you regularly carry more than a hundred pounds of stuff in the trunk) but would help illustrate the point. Have two people sit in the rear of the car and see what happens. __________________ Porsche 996 Turbo S - Full TechArt AeroKit \| 20" TechArt Formula GTS Porsche Cayenne Turbo S - TechArt Magnum Program - ECU, Widebody, Exhaust, Turbo's \| 22" TechArt Formula GTS \| 600bhp / 626lb-ft

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