Why pull it, when you can just bypass it...

John/Jmess5 · 11-05-2004, 07:48 AM

With the help of a couple of Awer's, "WildBlueYonder" & "Peccavis" I have just installed the "servotronic-relay-bypass-while-in-tiptronic" modification.

I know that there has been a lot of threads about pulling servos and wiring switches posted here already, so I won't go into the "why's". I always definitely liked the idea of better steering feel, but didn't want to pulled the servo, due to my wife's comments about how much she loved the steering in the A6. Hence, my dilemma.

When I read the link about the "servotronic-relay-bypass-while-in-tiptronic" some time ago, and thought, maybe someday I'd have enough "balls" to hack into the wiring harness. Well, it happened on Wednesday.

I contacted "WildBlueYonder" the author of the original link and found him to be most accommodating and informative. He answered all of my questions and then offered to assemble the required wiring harness for me.

With help of a local AWer, "Peccavis", we were able to simply follow the link's, very detailed directions without any problems. The pics were clear and info was exact. (accept my MY 2000 seemed to have 8mm bolts instead of the 10mm stated in the link.)

First Driving thoughts: Awesome. I can now use the tiptronic mode on those backwoods, winding and twisting roads near my house and get some excellent steering feedback. All the while not sacrificing any extra boost sometimes required for parallel parking and more importantly, the steering feel that my wife loves.

Advice: If you want the best of both worlds, even if you've already pulled your servo, put it back in and get this mod. A very simple install and invisible to the uniformed (my wife, who never uses the tip mode). You won't regret it.

A special thanks to Bill "WildBlueYonder" & Bert "Peccavis" for all their help and patience with this mod.

Servotronic-Relay-Bypass-While-in-Tiptronic

Boston Driver · 11-05-2004, 07:57 AM

Peccavis · 11-05-2004, 08:52 AM

TeddyBGame · 11-05-2004, 09:07 AM

DWP · 11-05-2004, 09:46 AM

WildBlueYonder · 11-05-2004, 10:27 AM

John/Jmess5 · 11-05-2004, 11:20 AM

Potomac-Greg · 11-05-2004, 12:51 PM

I don't have the nerve to do the whole thing, but I could put in a simple in-line switch.

John/Jmess5 · 11-05-2004, 01:04 PM

This is an easy mod:
I had the harness for 6 weeks before I attempted it. I don't know why I was nervous.

1 wire tapped to tip harness (1 wire tap and pliers)
2 wires tapped to servo harness (2 wire taps and pliers)
1 wire to power strip under dash (10mm socket)
1 wire to ground strip under dash (10mm socket)

That's it...It took longer to dis-assemble dash.

I (or peccavis; w/o even asking him) will help anyone locally who wants to do this. Probably 30-35 minutes...Done!

Don't be afraid...Come over to the Dark-side (then switch back w/a flick of the stick)

Boston Driver · 11-05-2004, 08:04 PM

or at least whenever WildBlue has a chance to asemble another one!

I can't wait! John, thanks for sharing, and for adding to my mod list! I have to edit my sig pic anyway to reflect the sport seats, might as well add something else

))

11-05-2004, 07:48 AM	#1
John/Jmess5 Member Account #: 70441 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,652	Why pull it, when you can just bypass it... With the help of a couple of Awer's, "WildBlueYonder" & "Peccavis" I have just installed the "servotronic-relay-bypass-while-in-tiptronic" modification. I know that there has been a lot of threads about pulling servos and wiring switches posted here already, so I won't go into the "why's". I always definitely liked the idea of better steering feel, but didn't want to pulled the servo, due to my wife's comments about how much she loved the steering in the A6. Hence, my dilemma. When I read the link about the "servotronic-relay-bypass-while-in-tiptronic" some time ago, and thought, maybe someday I'd have enough "balls" to hack into the wiring harness. Well, it happened on Wednesday. I contacted "WildBlueYonder" the author of the original link and found him to be most accommodating and informative. He answered all of my questions and then offered to assemble the required wiring harness for me. With help of a local AWer, "Peccavis", we were able to simply follow the link's, very detailed directions without any problems. The pics were clear and info was exact. (accept my MY 2000 seemed to have 8mm bolts instead of the 10mm stated in the link.) First Driving thoughts: Awesome. I can now use the tiptronic mode on those backwoods, winding and twisting roads near my house and get some excellent steering feedback. All the while not sacrificing any extra boost sometimes required for parallel parking and more importantly, the steering feel that my wife loves. Advice: If you want the best of both worlds, even if you've already pulled your servo, put it back in and get this mod. A very simple install and invisible to the uniformed (my wife, who never uses the tip mode). You won't regret it. A special thanks to Bill "WildBlueYonder" & Bert "Peccavis" for all their help and patience with this mod. Servotronic-Relay-Bypass-While-in-Tiptronic __________________ Wanted: Onyx "60" rear seat back As always, just my $.02. Your individual results may vary. 1998 Jetta GLX VR6, Giac ECU chip, K&N, Eibach front strut brace, Neuspeed 28mm rear sway, All weather package w/heated leather, 10 speaker OEM Bose system w/20 gig Phatnoise player, 30% tint. Magnaflow Cat-back exhaust Jetta Summer: 205/40 Dunlop Direzza DZ101’s on 17 x 7.5" Phat Five TT's Jetta Winter: 205/50 Toyo Observe G-03’s on 15 x 6" OEM Buggatti's 2000 A6 2.7T - 10/99 build, Cold, Conv. & Prem., '02 OEM Sport suspension, Xenons, '02 OEM 4.2 "cat-back" exhaust w/exposed tips, Bose w/20 gig Phatnoise player, APR Snub Mount, Vag-com'd, locks, windows & tipped -'00032', H-Sport front/rear sways, 35% tint, Servotronic-bypass-while-in-tiptronic, RNS-D Nav Plus. A6 Summer: 235/45 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 's on 17 x 8" BBS RC's w/Audi caps A6 Winter: 215/55 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on 16 x 7" OEM 5 spokes Answers to all of life's questions / AudiWorld Classifieds / Vag-Com Locator / A6 Links / Audi A6/S6/Allroad (C5) 1998-04 OEM Parts List / If all else fails, you can always try here <a href="http://mfile.akamai.com/28/asf/mgm.download.akamai.com/28/ronin_trailer_300k.asx"><img src="http://www.mgm.c

11-05-2004, 07:57 AM	#2
Boston Driver AudiWorld Expert Account #: 69482 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lexington, MA Posts: 26,765	Great! I might have to try that out next time I see you! __________________ 2002 A6 4.2 Sport...with a few things added

11-05-2004, 08:52 AM	#3
Peccavis New Member Account #: 73796 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 388	Thanks for the thanks! Toying with the innards of our A6's is great fun!!! __________________

11-05-2004, 09:07 AM	#4
TeddyBGame AudiWorld Super User Account #: 32631 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,784	Awesome article...awesome process. It gets my vote for Stoney's site. Sweet article. __________________ TeddyBGame - C5 Avant - "the Beast" (Ha!!) - 2005 Chrysler Pacifica Touring (Nav, Sirius, Bluetooth, Xenon, TPMS, ParkSense, DVD Changer - basically loaded) - 2003 Vespa ET2 (modified exhaust and carb -- so I can max out at 45MPH) - John Deere Gator (4x2) for the boy As of November 2006: Accessory Add-ons: (Definition: An item that provides a specific function - in a cyclical nature - and can be removed very..very easily.) 1) OEM winter floor mats 2) OEM rubber trunk mat and cargo net 3) VW Touareg cigarette lighter flashlight 4) Thule roof bars with Evolution 1200 roof box Upgrades: (Definition: A [bolt-on/bolt-off] item that enhances the appearance, performance or misc function of your car.) 1) OEM front/rear Euro black Recaro Seats (from a Euro 2003 S6 Avant) http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/618112.phtml 2) OEM HID/Xenon (complete) housings (car never came with the Xenon option from the factory) 3) OEM Euro front/rear (avant) beam-style wiper blades/arms (available via www.vagparts.com) 4) OEM B6 S4 Interior auto-dimming black mirror with compass and on/off button 5) OEM Euro blindspot exterior mirrors 6) OEM S6/4.2 exterior lower door trim 7) OEM S4/S6/S8 aluminum mirror housings 8) OEM Euro rear license plate panel from 2002+ facelift avant (slight MODification to US plate required) 9) ? 10) OEM Euro RNS-E DVD Navigation system with MP3, SAT control and TV input 11) Dietz 1417 A/V input to RNS-E 12) Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/CD/MP3/TV Tuner with aftermarket amplified TV antenna in windshield 13) OEM Sirius tuner (special version to work with RNS-E) 14) OEM Phatnoise Phatbox MP3 player (trunk mounted) with custom interface cable to allow Sirius tuner and Phatbox to work together -- cool!! 15) ? 16) BBS RC 17x8 ET35 with Michelin Pilot Sports (summer tires) 17) 2002+ Rear bumper with valance openings for Magnaflow 3" exhaust tips 18) OEM submarine fin roof antenna for SAT / GPS / Cellphone (GSM) 19) OEM Euro gunmetal black avant roof rails 20) 2002+ Climate control faceplate to match faceplate color of RNS-E 21) Walnut wood trim near hazard button (above RNS-E) to match rest of interior wood scheme 22) OEM Euro Avant door panels with integrated sunshades (imported from Germany to match the black leather in my Euro Recaro interior) 23) OEM Euro blacked out front grille (no chrome perimeter) 24) OEM gunmetal black lower rear hatch strip (specific part# for avant vs. sedan) 25) OEM RS6 gunmetal black interior door latches; no need to add any RS6 badges in my car (Thanks Nelson!!!) 26) OEM Euro four spoke walnut wood and black leather (special order via Audi GmbH) multi-function wheel with tip buttons and OEM phone (BT) control 27) Upgraded "618" MF/Tip control module Coming soon: - rear mounted removable 7" LCD panel MODifications: (Definition: Any permenant change to a part or component of your car that you cannot reverse) 1) Tray under armrest to add aux. cigarette lighter 2) OEM avant CD changer bracket MODified (to fit two large CD changers etc) - now I just use it for Phatbox, OEM SAT tuner and OEM BT module. 3) Exhaust tips MODified to add Magna Flow (#35163) 3" dual walled tip 4) Factory wiring behind Sym I to simplify installation/removal of RNS-E 5) MODified glovebox to support fitment of Blaupunkt ME3 (a biatch to install!!) 6) MODified headlight switch bezel for fitment of GALA switch for "video-in-motion" for playing Blaupunkt ME3 through RNSE 7) MODified stock exhaust and had magnaflow 3" tips welded on (see above) 8) MODified rear Euro license plate surround to house 2nd rear foglight (2001 model only came with one from the factory); US license plate needed to be MODified a bit to fit inside the narrow Euro opening. RNS-E for C5 A6/S6/allroad/RS6 - your quest starts here - (regularly updated) <a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/607331.phtml">OEM submarine fin installed on

11-05-2004, 09:46 AM	#5
DWP AudiWorld Super User Account #: 1043 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 5,493	Change your handle now , Mr "cojones". Way to go! __________________ My Audis: 05 A4 Ultrasport 3.0 MT. Silver on ebony leather. Debadged, ClearBra, AMS Short Shifter, MagnaFlows, RS4 Reps, RS4 Rear Sway Bar, 4-ring valve caps, Premium, Bose, Sirius, Warm, Cold, other stuff. 02 2.7T Irish Green Sport Tip Gone but never forgotten 2001 A4 1.8TQM w/ Bilsteins & Vogtland sport springs, TSB, APR Snub, 17" OEM Avus S4's, GIAC Chip, V&S Short Shifter, H-sport bars, APR Cat-back, A8 rotors, clear corners, PIAA Superwhites, sunglass holder mod. '87 4KQ Bone Stock Gone after all these years email:DWPMR@YAHOOdotCOM

11-05-2004, 10:27 AM	#6
WildBlueYonder Junior Member Account #: 21603 Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 506	Thanks for the plug! Glad you're enjoying it and that the install was painless. __________________ '01 Ming blue 2.7T; 'intelligent' power steering, smoked tails and sides, 17" Ronal RT (chrome), Yokohama AVS db 2, H-Sport sway bars, APR ECU upgrade Coming soon: GIAC Tip chip upgrade Click here for more pics

11-05-2004, 11:20 AM	#7
John/Jmess5 Member Account #: 70441 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,652	Now here's the man that deserves all the credit...Excellent mod. Thanks again! __________________ Wanted: Onyx "60" rear seat back As always, just my $.02. Your individual results may vary. 1998 Jetta GLX VR6, Giac ECU chip, K&N, Eibach front strut brace, Neuspeed 28mm rear sway, All weather package w/heated leather, 10 speaker OEM Bose system w/20 gig Phatnoise player, 30% tint. Magnaflow Cat-back exhaust Jetta Summer: 205/40 Dunlop Direzza DZ101’s on 17 x 7.5" Phat Five TT's Jetta Winter: 205/50 Toyo Observe G-03’s on 15 x 6" OEM Buggatti's 2000 A6 2.7T - 10/99 build, Cold, Conv. & Prem., '02 OEM Sport suspension, Xenons, '02 OEM 4.2 "cat-back" exhaust w/exposed tips, Bose w/20 gig Phatnoise player, APR Snub Mount, Vag-com'd, locks, windows & tipped -'00032', H-Sport front/rear sways, 35% tint, Servotronic-bypass-while-in-tiptronic, RNS-D Nav Plus. A6 Summer: 235/45 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 's on 17 x 8" BBS RC's w/Audi caps A6 Winter: 215/55 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on 16 x 7" OEM 5 spokes Answers to all of life's questions / AudiWorld Classifieds / Vag-Com Locator / A6 Links / Audi A6/S6/Allroad (C5) 1998-04 OEM Parts List / If all else fails, you can always try here <a href="http://mfile.akamai.com/28/asf/mgm.download.akamai.com/28/ronin_trailer_300k.asx"><img src="http://www.mgm.c

11-05-2004, 12:51 PM	#8
Potomac-Greg AudiWorld Super User Account #: 18626 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 21,866	Could part IV be used just to install an in-line switch? I don't have the nerve to do the whole thing, but I could put in a simple in-line switch. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Mine: 2002 Mercedes Benz C32 / ///AMG Family Choo Choo: 2008 MB GL320 CDI Track Ho: 1988 Porschuh 944 Recent History: Audi 2002 TT Roadster History: Audi 2000 A6 2.7T Ancient History: Audi 1991 90Q 20V

11-05-2004, 01:04 PM	#9
John/Jmess5 Member Account #: 70441 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,652	Lemme splain... This is an easy mod: I had the harness for 6 weeks before I attempted it. I don't know why I was nervous. 1 wire tapped to tip harness (1 wire tap and pliers) 2 wires tapped to servo harness (2 wire taps and pliers) 1 wire to power strip under dash (10mm socket) 1 wire to ground strip under dash (10mm socket) That's it...It took longer to dis-assemble dash. I (or peccavis; w/o even asking him) will help anyone locally who wants to do this. Probably 30-35 minutes...Done! Don't be afraid...Come over to the Dark-side (then switch back w/a flick of the stick) __________________ Wanted: Onyx "60" rear seat back As always, just my $.02. Your individual results may vary. 1998 Jetta GLX VR6, Giac ECU chip, K&N, Eibach front strut brace, Neuspeed 28mm rear sway, All weather package w/heated leather, 10 speaker OEM Bose system w/20 gig Phatnoise player, 30% tint. Magnaflow Cat-back exhaust Jetta Summer: 205/40 Dunlop Direzza DZ101’s on 17 x 7.5" Phat Five TT's Jetta Winter: 205/50 Toyo Observe G-03’s on 15 x 6" OEM Buggatti's 2000 A6 2.7T - 10/99 build, Cold, Conv. & Prem., '02 OEM Sport suspension, Xenons, '02 OEM 4.2 "cat-back" exhaust w/exposed tips, Bose w/20 gig Phatnoise player, APR Snub Mount, Vag-com'd, locks, windows & tipped -'00032', H-Sport front/rear sways, 35% tint, Servotronic-bypass-while-in-tiptronic, RNS-D Nav Plus. A6 Summer: 235/45 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 's on 17 x 8" BBS RC's w/Audi caps A6 Winter: 215/55 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on 16 x 7" OEM 5 spokes Answers to all of life's questions / AudiWorld Classifieds / Vag-Com Locator / A6 Links / Audi A6/S6/Allroad (C5) 1998-04 OEM Parts List / If all else fails, you can always try here <a href="http://mfile.akamai.com/28/asf/mgm.download.akamai.com/28/ronin_trailer_300k.asx"><img src="http://www.mgm.c

11-05-2004, 08:04 PM	#10
Boston Driver AudiWorld Expert Account #: 69482 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lexington, MA Posts: 26,765	My harness is on it's way next week! or at least whenever WildBlue has a chance to asemble another one! I can't wait! John, thanks for sharing, and for adding to my mod list! I have to edit my sig pic anyway to reflect the sport seats, might as well add something else )) __________________ 2002 A6 4.2 Sport...with a few things added

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