Evolution Racewerks IC's installed. (long)...

PlanetS4/DeathProof · 05-21-2007, 02:46 PM

Had a chance to make it down to WMS on Saturday to have my ER IC's installed.

Although my intentions were to do some before and after logs to compare my current AWE IC's to the ER IC's, we weren't able to due to time constraints.

After my 80 mile trek from Riverside I arrived at WMS with car well warmed up and IC's heat soaked. luckely the data techs were set up and ready to go.

Although my AWE IC'e were heat soaked, the recovery time was rather rapid: indication of a very efficient IC.

Ambient temps were around 85-87 degrees and humidity was unknown. I had a 1/2 tank of 50/50 mix of 109/91 fuel left over from GI, so we just finished that off.

As noted, the first thing we noticed was the rapid recovery time for the AWE IC's even in traffic. Although it was difficult to time an open lane to get a full 3rd gear pull we managed to get two good ones from 2800-7000rpm, and a really good one from 2500-7000rpm with a 4th gear shift at 7k.

The initial pulls revealed other issues going on that needed to be addressed, such as a bad o2 sensor and some fuel/timing issues. After some adjustments were made we were able to get some beter data on the 3rd pull. (data available soon)

After letting the car cool off for a while we started to dig into the car: removing the front bumper and AWE IC's.

Upon inspection of the ER IC's my initial thoughts questioned fitment issues due to the massive size (see photo below), but believe it or not, they fit in almost the same space as the AWE IC's with only minor additional trimming.

We did a pre fitment to see if there would be any bumper clearance, or belly pan issues, but every thing snapped in just fine with no bumper trimming at all.

As mentioned above, due to time constraints, we were not able to do any post logging because the loggers had left, but we will continue soon on a day with similar conditions.

One caveat, although only minor trimming was required in addition to AWE trim spec, if installing these from the git, it won't hurt to trim as much back as possible. as long as you keep all your support mounting points.

Thanks to WickedMS and crew.

I will update with data soon.

HOLY NEW YORK CHEESE CAKE BATMAN!

A quick comparison between AWE and ER. A stock IC would have been dwarfed to the size of a pocket calculator next to these monsters.

A low flying birds eye view.

As the lucky recipient of my AWE IC's frantically removes his new babys

Vader gets new breathing apparatus

Belly pan clearance.

AC hose clearance. Another caveat, by jacking up the passenger side of the car and putting the nose into a semi-service position you can slip the IC in and out with ease from underneath rather than trying to muscle it in from the side.

These markings were from the AWE trim spec

Trimming of AC bracket for pass side.

additional driver side trimming

slight trimming of bumper plate on passenger side only.

Simp trimming bumper plate.
Contrary to popular belief...he does work.

Proof...

Milpitas2.7T · 05-21-2007, 02:55 PM

are what many have found to be the case, while they still may look like shadetree IC's, not something produced by a larger tuner, they do seem to recover and perform very very well!

Ochlockonee · 05-21-2007, 02:55 PM

SIMPPLY @ WMS · 05-21-2007, 02:56 PM

we should have data and dyno #s very soon .

I will have a few more sets in the next few weeks. If you are interested feel free to call me at (818) 997-6500

Thank you

drgolfnut · 05-21-2007, 02:57 PM

I was hoping to stick around to see these bad boys but you were away doing more logs with Anthony. I hope your friend knows the huge steal he got with those AWEs. I look forward to seeing some real logs since I am looking to pull the trigger on new ICs soon too. I also sent Anthony the logs we took of your car on the way to lunch.

Chinh

PlanetS4/DeathProof · 05-21-2007, 03:00 PM

PlanetS4/DeathProof · 05-21-2007, 03:03 PM

Ah10@WMS · 05-21-2007, 03:08 PM

Max shot me an email or call me, let me send you the log!

drgolfnut · 05-21-2007, 03:12 PM

I dont need those fancy CF shrouds just some better ICs. Also, do you think you can install IC misters at the same time? Water injection is likely much more effective but I dont want to have more programming performed.

Cargasm2.7 · 05-21-2007, 03:14 PM

05-21-2007, 02:46 PM	#1
PlanetS4/DeathProof Junior Member Account #: 101116 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,406	Evolution Racewerks IC's installed. (long)... Had a chance to make it down to WMS on Saturday to have my ER IC's installed. Although my intentions were to do some before and after logs to compare my current AWE IC's to the ER IC's, we weren't able to due to time constraints. After my 80 mile trek from Riverside I arrived at WMS with car well warmed up and IC's heat soaked. luckely the data techs were set up and ready to go. Although my AWE IC'e were heat soaked, the recovery time was rather rapid: indication of a very efficient IC. Ambient temps were around 85-87 degrees and humidity was unknown. I had a 1/2 tank of 50/50 mix of 109/91 fuel left over from GI, so we just finished that off. As noted, the first thing we noticed was the rapid recovery time for the AWE IC's even in traffic. Although it was difficult to time an open lane to get a full 3rd gear pull we managed to get two good ones from 2800-7000rpm, and a really good one from 2500-7000rpm with a 4th gear shift at 7k. The initial pulls revealed other issues going on that needed to be addressed, such as a bad o2 sensor and some fuel/timing issues. After some adjustments were made we were able to get some beter data on the 3rd pull. (data available soon) After letting the car cool off for a while we started to dig into the car: removing the front bumper and AWE IC's. Upon inspection of the ER IC's my initial thoughts questioned fitment issues due to the massive size (see photo below), but believe it or not, they fit in almost the same space as the AWE IC's with only minor additional trimming. We did a pre fitment to see if there would be any bumper clearance, or belly pan issues, but every thing snapped in just fine with no bumper trimming at all. As mentioned above, due to time constraints, we were not able to do any post logging because the loggers had left, but we will continue soon on a day with similar conditions. One caveat, although only minor trimming was required in addition to AWE trim spec, if installing these from the git, it won't hurt to trim as much back as possible. as long as you keep all your support mounting points. Thanks to WickedMS and crew. I will update with data soon. HOLY NEW YORK CHEESE CAKE BATMAN! A quick comparison between AWE and ER. A stock IC would have been dwarfed to the size of a pocket calculator next to these monsters. A low flying birds eye view. As the lucky recipient of my AWE IC's frantically removes his new babys Vader gets new breathing apparatus Belly pan clearance. AC hose clearance. Another caveat, by jacking up the passenger side of the car and putting the nose into a semi-service position you can slip the IC in and out with ease from underneath rather than trying to muscle it in from the side. These markings were from the AWE trim spec Trimming of AC bracket for pass side. additional driver side trimming slight trimming of bumper plate on passenger side only. Simp trimming bumper plate. Contrary to popular belief...he does work. Proof...

05-21-2007, 02:55 PM	#2
Milpitas2.7T Elder Member Account #: 6383 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 25,962	Man those do look nice, .. can't wait for test information and what you learned about the AWE's are what many have found to be the case, while they still may look like shadetree IC's, not something produced by a larger tuner, they do seem to recover and perform very very well! __________________

05-21-2007, 02:55 PM	#3
Ochlockonee Member Account #: 72863 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,953	Thanks, can't wait for some data=) __________________ "No, a flux capacitor is not compatible with a ham sandwich."

05-21-2007, 02:56 PM	#4
SIMPPLY @ WMS Audiworld Premium Sponsor Account #: 73926 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,989	Woohoo congrats Max ... BTW those that are interested in ER coolers we should have data and dyno #s very soon . I will have a few more sets in the next few weeks. If you are interested feel free to call me at (818) 997-6500 Thank you __________________ _______________________________________ Need performance work done on your late model Audi, or just service done? Please visit SoCal's best! Wicked Motorsports

05-21-2007, 02:57 PM	#5
drgolfnut AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 24874 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,719	Nice ICs Max I was hoping to stick around to see these bad boys but you were away doing more logs with Anthony. I hope your friend knows the huge steal he got with those AWEs. I look forward to seeing some real logs since I am looking to pull the trigger on new ICs soon too. I also sent Anthony the logs we took of your car on the way to lunch. Chinh __________________ HERS: Level10, ASP3 custom tuned for X-1 intake, ER ICs, Bilstein PSS9s, Brembo GT 355, Stasis rear, piggie pipes and modified Miltek, Work Emotions, Matrix OCK, all assembled and cared for by WMS. HIS: casablanca widebody avant, ASP GT28RS, tuning for 91 octane in process, also babied by WMS.

05-21-2007, 03:00 PM	#6
PlanetS4/DeathProof Junior Member Account #: 101116 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,406	Cool. Looking forward to continued logging session. Thanks.

05-21-2007, 03:03 PM	#7
PlanetS4/DeathProof Junior Member Account #: 101116 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,406	Thanks man. I only wish I was able to do some before and after dyno testing done.

05-21-2007, 03:08 PM	#8
Ah10@WMS AudiWorld Super User Account #: 9327 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,630	Nice bro! anyone notice whos hands are those? Max shot me an email or call me, let me send you the log! __________________ WMS: 818-997-6500 ASP:856-772-9500 \|\| ASP Custom Tuned Stage 3 \|\| 710P \|\| Piggie DP \|\| ASP 89mm Truedual \|\| ASP TSB \|\| APR Boost Gauge \|\| RS4 Grille \|\| \|\| AWE Intercooler \|\| C M Stage 4, 6 puck & LWFW \|\| ASP Motor Mount \|\| RS4 Tranny Mount\|\| StaSIS Motorsport Ohlins \|\| \|\| 18" Work W-ITS 901 \|\| 245/35/18 ContiSport3 \|\| Ecode \|\| Modded RS4 Bumper \|\| StaSIS Motorsport Alcon 6pot 355 \|\| WMS Stage III: 3.54 fats on Pump 3.25 fats on Race gas both runs were on pump file 3.06 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File 2.93 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File in 40f weather

05-21-2007, 03:12 PM	#9
drgolfnut AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 24874 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,719	Mike, will these fit a tip? If so, put me down for a set. I dont need those fancy CF shrouds just some better ICs. Also, do you think you can install IC misters at the same time? Water injection is likely much more effective but I dont want to have more programming performed. __________________ HERS: Level10, ASP3 custom tuned for X-1 intake, ER ICs, Bilstein PSS9s, Brembo GT 355, Stasis rear, piggie pipes and modified Miltek, Work Emotions, Matrix OCK, all assembled and cared for by WMS. HIS: casablanca widebody avant, ASP GT28RS, tuning for 91 octane in process, also babied by WMS.

05-21-2007, 03:14 PM	#10
Cargasm2.7 Member Account #: 56988 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7,210	Nice....selling the AWE's? __________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Yukon/Camaro/Corvette "The"

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