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Did another log this morning but i have a few questions on overall timing.
Ambient temp:66F Fuel: 100oct(1/2 a tank) File: X file Humidity:67% Altitude: 430ft Boost: just a hair under 22psi spike, taper to 20psi by redline Here we go: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Here is my specific question, why is the overall timing bounce? it was on its way climbing up and what a sudden it drops and climb back up? cf were too good(in a way i dont like it that much, would like to see some CF) and knock wasnt bad and it didnt have too many sudden spike? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, forgot to hit the start button on the WB but i didnt touch fueling for a long time afr should stay the same as last log, low to mid 11's in midrange and 11.5:1 right before i let off. Anyone knows (Mr. M&M, Nyet, Midget, Flyboy, Dap, SmokingS4, Dvs2.7T and ............)why is overall timing bounces? when i run pump gas i didnt see such activities only when i am on Race gas. I remember Midget and SLPRS4 have the same Experience before! Thanks
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WMS: 818-997-6500 ASP:856-772-9500 ![]() ![]() || ASP Custom Tuned Stage 3 || 710P || Piggie DP || ASP 89mm Truedual || ASP TSB || APR Boost Gauge || RS4 Grille || || AWE Intercooler || C M Stage 4, 6 puck & LWFW || ASP Motor Mount || RS4 Tranny Mount|| StaSIS Motorsport Ohlins || || 18" Work W-ITS 901 || 245/35/18 ContiSport3 || Ecode || Modded RS4 Bumper || StaSIS Motorsport Alcon 6pot 355 || WMS Stage III: 3.54 fats on Pump 3.25 fats on Race gas both runs were on pump file 3.06 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File 2.93 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File in 40f weather
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when it sees high mid range timing due to race gas adaptation.
Mine is much more pronounced than yours because I pulled the ECU and added timing to get the midrange timing higher: ![]() ![]()
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I would like to see just a little bit like 0~3d of cf(learn that from the Moss man).
would like to add timing as soon as i can figure out why overall timing bounces. does it make sense to joo?
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WMS: 818-997-6500 ASP:856-772-9500 ![]() ![]() || ASP Custom Tuned Stage 3 || 710P || Piggie DP || ASP 89mm Truedual || ASP TSB || APR Boost Gauge || RS4 Grille || || AWE Intercooler || C M Stage 4, 6 puck & LWFW || ASP Motor Mount || RS4 Tranny Mount|| StaSIS Motorsport Ohlins || || 18" Work W-ITS 901 || 245/35/18 ContiSport3 || Ecode || Modded RS4 Bumper || StaSIS Motorsport Alcon 6pot 355 || WMS Stage III: 3.54 fats on Pump 3.25 fats on Race gas both runs were on pump file 3.06 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File 2.93 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File in 40f weather
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![]() ![]() ![]() Patrick had similar CFs to me, but choppy timing like the post I made above....best of both worlds :P |
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WMS: 818-997-6500 ASP:856-772-9500 ![]() ![]() || ASP Custom Tuned Stage 3 || 710P || Piggie DP || ASP 89mm Truedual || ASP TSB || APR Boost Gauge || RS4 Grille || || AWE Intercooler || C M Stage 4, 6 puck & LWFW || ASP Motor Mount || RS4 Tranny Mount|| StaSIS Motorsport Ohlins || || 18" Work W-ITS 901 || 245/35/18 ContiSport3 || Ecode || Modded RS4 Bumper || StaSIS Motorsport Alcon 6pot 355 || WMS Stage III: 3.54 fats on Pump 3.25 fats on Race gas both runs were on pump file 3.06 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File 2.93 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File in 40f weather
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My only explanation could be that X just flat out freaks when it sees real solid mid/low range timing because it's not used to it.
When I didn't add timing via Lemmi and ran the same X settings with race gas, these were the results: Lower mid/low range timing, but no crazy pullback which I guess resulted in good performance due to more timing under the curve? ![]() ![]()
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which further proves IAT has a direct relation to overalltiming angle. you are starting at 100F and staying around there. I see nothing in the raw data to explain why other then high IATS to start off with.
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Stage III Tip : ??? FATS (Race Gas) 3.43 Average Pump gas --------------- Fastest Tiptronic! ET: 12.259@118.25mph :) "Turbos are usually the cheapest/easiest way to add power - Posted by: Corrado79 on 2008-05-21 13:22:49 "Amazing that he could maintain a wedgie and talk out of his ass at the same time. That's one skill he CAN lay claim to. - Skydive@W?? 2007-12-18" --- "good I just added you to my " bitch " VIP list ." -Professional customer service - SIMPPLY@WMS 2007-12-17 --- "i tried the propane file on butane and it blew my ****ing grill up." - mjtaylor::pipedream 2007-08-23 14:21:46 --- "It takes a problem which we don't have and doesn't even solve it" - Mirror|rorriM on 2006-09-26 --- "but yeah you want open loop when you go wot ;-)" - PiggieSmalls on 2006-11-10 --- ![]() ![]() $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ = !@$#!#!!@&%! ---- ![]()
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