Homebrew Stage 3 BT: GIAC X or XR (K03 Software)

Ben the Ben · 05-31-2006, 08:52 AM

I currently have an A-Box running GIAC X software (v.7, I think) with my Stage 2 K03 setup. Will be installing K04s, injectors, MAF, etc in a couple weeks. Should I consider switching to XR software? If so, what exactly do I need to do (can I just have my currently X chip upgraded, or do I need to purchase a new one), and how much should I expect to pay?

Thanks.

BTW, I live in an area with 93 octane, if that matters.

BLK01S4::HB B!SH · 05-31-2006, 08:58 AM

XR = Race
X = Street

LappS4 · 05-31-2006, 09:07 AM

I needed the hitachi maf. Most homebrew guys are making good power on just X. A XR race program is nice though if you can get 100.

box_of_partS4 · 05-31-2006, 09:08 AM

IE if your mods (larger compressor wheel, upgraded ICs, phenolic spacers, etc) result in consistently low IATs you might be able to run XR on 93 octane. I believe people have done this in the past/are doing this now.

You might want to pull a few degrees of timing for safety. Obviously you'd need to log like crazy to make sure whatever you're doing is safe.

Not sure this is even possible now that our 93 octane sucks...

Tifosi · 05-31-2006, 09:11 AM

Ben the Ben · 05-31-2006, 09:11 AM

Ben the Ben · 05-31-2006, 09:13 AM

people tuning for Stage 3+ had better results tweaking GIAC K03 X software than GIAC Stage 3- software?

box_of_partS4 · 05-31-2006, 09:29 AM

Mike2kS4 · 05-31-2006, 09:30 AM

Even on race gas.

Ben the Ben · 05-31-2006, 09:41 AM

05-31-2006, 08:52 AM	#1
Ben the Ben Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,958	Homebrew Stage 3 BT: GIAC X or XR (K03 Software) I currently have an A-Box running GIAC X software (v.7, I think) with my Stage 2 K03 setup. Will be installing K04s, injectors, MAF, etc in a couple weeks. Should I consider switching to XR software? If so, what exactly do I need to do (can I just have my currently X chip upgraded, or do I need to purchase a new one), and how much should I expect to pay? Thanks. BTW, I live in an area with 93 octane, if that matters. __________________ --------------------------------------- <a href="http://profile.mygamercard.net/Benjamin+Noah"> </a>

05-31-2006, 08:58 AM	#2
BLK01S4::HB B!SH AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,915	Sure if you plan on buying 100 octane at every fillup :) XR = Race X = Street __________________ Stage III Tip : ??? FATS (Race Gas) 3.43 Average Pump gas --------------- Fastest Tiptronic! ET: 12.259@118.25mph "Turbos are usually the cheapest/easiest way to add power - Posted by: Corrado79 on 2008-05-21 13:22:49 "Amazing that he could maintain a wedgie and talk out of his ass at the same time. That's one skill he CAN lay claim to. - Skydive@W?? 2007-12-18" --- "good I just added you to my " bitch " VIP list ." -Professional customer service - SIMPPLY@WMS 2007-12-17 --- "i tried the propane file on butane and it blew my ing grill up." - mjtaylor:ipedream 2007-08-23 14:21:46 --- "It takes a problem which we don't have and doesn't even solve it" - Mirror\|rorriM on 2006-09-26 --- "but yeah you want open loop when you go wot ;-)" - PiggieSmalls on 2006-11-10 --- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ = !@$#!#!!@&%! ----

05-31-2006, 09:07 AM	#3
LappS4 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 211	when I went stage 3 I switched from A-box to M-box (GIAC X) because I needed the hitachi maf. Most homebrew guys are making good power on just X. A XR race program is nice though if you can get 100. __________________ Homebrew Stage 3

05-31-2006, 09:08 AM	#4
box_of_partS4 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,980	Sometimes you can get away with running the race program on 93 oct gas....depending on mods IE if your mods (larger compressor wheel, upgraded ICs, phenolic spacers, etc) result in consistently low IATs you might be able to run XR on 93 octane. I believe people have done this in the past/are doing this now. You might want to pull a few degrees of timing for safety. Obviously you'd need to log like crazy to make sure whatever you're doing is safe. Not sure this is even possible now that our 93 octane sucks...

05-31-2006, 09:11 AM	#5
Tifosi AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,319	If you are planning on switching software, why not just go Stage 3- ?

05-31-2006, 09:11 AM	#6
Ben the Ben Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,958	Yeah, I had found reports of people doing this in the STFA, thats why I asked. Good info, thanks. __________________ --------------------------------------- <a href="http://profile.mygamercard.net/Benjamin+Noah"> </a>

05-31-2006, 09:13 AM	#7
Ben the Ben Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,958	Please correct me if I'm wrong (b/c I definitely could be), but haven't... people tuning for Stage 3+ had better results tweaking GIAC K03 X software than GIAC Stage 3- software? __________________ --------------------------------------- <a href="http://profile.mygamercard.net/Benjamin+Noah"> </a>

05-31-2006, 09:29 AM	#8
box_of_partS4 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,980	You can't tweak 3- software....adaptation channels are disabled.

05-31-2006, 09:30 AM	#9
Mike2kS4 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,096	X is fine... Even on race gas. __________________ 2002 S4 Avant, 6spd. Bone stock. <a href="http://www.autospeed.us"> </a> Caveat: Any advice I express regarding potential tuning and such is purely informational. If your knowledge and abilities are not up to the task, no amount of advice can assist.

05-31-2006, 09:41 AM	#10
Ben the Ben Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,958	Yeah, thats what I thought. Thanks for the clarification though. __________________ --------------------------------------- <a href="http://profile.mygamercard.net/Benjamin+Noah"> </a>

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