quick review (kinda long): Vogtland Coilovers

EE:OutofBounds · 01-25-2006, 01:10 PM

so i wasn't happy with my Koni/Stasis Streetsports for awhile. A bit too soft, and underdamped for a fat pig like the ones we drive...and being an Avant didn't help in those matters. So I looked into PSS9's, KWV2's, Stasis Tracksports, and Vogtland Coilovers. I wanted a firmer ride...something more sporty, with much less body roll, and eliminating the porpoising that the SS had going over dips at higher speeds. Being that I didn't want to drop $2k on a suspension, and hearing good things about the Vogtlands (Tomasz, Imola Rocket, and of course.....the legendary S4Madman's review of them)...I went ahead with the Vogtlands. Mike from Pure Motorsports was every helpful and I HIGHLY recommend them!! =) Now...although they are NOT valving adjustable, only ride height...I wouldn't mind as long as it delivered the improvements over the Streetsports. Cyrus at JC Autohaus did the install and alignment. This guy is really a pleasure to watch. His professionalism, knowledge, and attention to details is priceless. After the install and some height adjustments (I am currently at 25.5" all-around), as well as all-wheel alignment.....I took the puppy home. First thing I noticed is that though much firmer than SS...the ride is sooo much nicer imho. Firmer, the slop is gone, and the car on smooth roads is even smoother than the Streetsports. Through the freeway onramps and curves...the car is much tighter. Less body roll, allowing for more spirited driving. Over bumps and uneven road surfaces...the ride can get slightly on the harsher side...but nothing that you can't live with. Right before I get home...there is a couple set of dips where my old SS would porppise over them at 40 mph. With the Vogtlands...going over at 50...the car stayed stable and the stiffer srpings and valving really shined. The spring rates for the Vogtlands is 670 front and 630 rear as oppsed to the Streetsports which have 450 front and 390 rear....if I'm not mistaken. Anyways...I am extremely happy with this setup. I highly recommend them to anyone looking for a firmer, more aggresssive street-setup that will handle the occassional trackday as well. Honestly...I think this is how the S4 really should of came from the factory. Just my .02 cents

caveat: I live in SoCal so the roads are much smoother in comparison to other parts of the country (say Northeast ie, Boston, Philly, DC, and of course NYC which has THE worst roads EVAR) and needless to say if you live in any climate/region where you do have real winters and as a result, harsher roads like Detroit, Chicago, etc. I think the Vogtlands are perfect for a place like SoCal, or Florida...but perhaps may be slightly rough for those other aforementioned regions. Then again...it is subjective...and how much you can tolerate would be up to each individual and his needs. I personally would still prefer the Vogtlands > SS even if I still lived in the NYC area.

Thanks again to Mike at PureMS for these Vogtlands. They are truly great to deal with.

Front passenger Vogtland installed. OOh....sooo nice and shiny! ;P

Getting Aligned

Black Sunshine · 01-25-2006, 01:37 PM

tristateS4 · 01-25-2006, 01:38 PM

EE:OutofBounds · 01-25-2006, 01:40 PM

EE:OutofBounds · 01-25-2006, 01:42 PM

Christian (Stage Ow) · 01-25-2006, 01:43 PM

EE:OutofBounds · 01-25-2006, 01:53 PM

Ah10@WMS · 01-25-2006, 01:54 PM

EE:OutofBounds · 01-25-2006, 01:55 PM

S4Fish · 01-25-2006, 01:56 PM

01-25-2006, 01:10 PM	#1
EE:OutofBounds Elder Member Account #: 23890 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,300	quick review (kinda long): Vogtland Coilovers so i wasn't happy with my Koni/Stasis Streetsports for awhile. A bit too soft, and underdamped for a fat pig like the ones we drive...and being an Avant didn't help in those matters. So I looked into PSS9's, KWV2's, Stasis Tracksports, and Vogtland Coilovers. I wanted a firmer ride...something more sporty, with much less body roll, and eliminating the porpoising that the SS had going over dips at higher speeds. Being that I didn't want to drop $2k on a suspension, and hearing good things about the Vogtlands (Tomasz, Imola Rocket, and of course.....the legendary S4Madman's review of them)...I went ahead with the Vogtlands. Mike from Pure Motorsports was every helpful and I HIGHLY recommend them!! =) Now...although they are NOT valving adjustable, only ride height...I wouldn't mind as long as it delivered the improvements over the Streetsports. Cyrus at JC Autohaus did the install and alignment. This guy is really a pleasure to watch. His professionalism, knowledge, and attention to details is priceless. After the install and some height adjustments (I am currently at 25.5" all-around), as well as all-wheel alignment.....I took the puppy home. First thing I noticed is that though much firmer than SS...the ride is sooo much nicer imho. Firmer, the slop is gone, and the car on smooth roads is even smoother than the Streetsports. Through the freeway onramps and curves...the car is much tighter. Less body roll, allowing for more spirited driving. Over bumps and uneven road surfaces...the ride can get slightly on the harsher side...but nothing that you can't live with. Right before I get home...there is a couple set of dips where my old SS would porppise over them at 40 mph. With the Vogtlands...going over at 50...the car stayed stable and the stiffer srpings and valving really shined. The spring rates for the Vogtlands is 670 front and 630 rear as oppsed to the Streetsports which have 450 front and 390 rear....if I'm not mistaken. Anyways...I am extremely happy with this setup. I highly recommend them to anyone looking for a firmer, more aggresssive street-setup that will handle the occassional trackday as well. Honestly...I think this is how the S4 really should of came from the factory. Just my .02 cents caveat: I live in SoCal so the roads are much smoother in comparison to other parts of the country (say Northeast ie, Boston, Philly, DC, and of course NYC which has THE worst roads EVAR) and needless to say if you live in any climate/region where you do have real winters and as a result, harsher roads like Detroit, Chicago, etc. I think the Vogtlands are perfect for a place like SoCal, or Florida...but perhaps may be slightly rough for those other aforementioned regions. Then again...it is subjective...and how much you can tolerate would be up to each individual and his needs. I personally would still prefer the Vogtlands > SS even if I still lived in the NYC area. Thanks again to Mike at PureMS for these Vogtlands. They are truly great to deal with. Front passenger Vogtland installed. OOh....sooo nice and shiny! ;P Getting Aligned __________________ Out of Bounds Rideshop (908) 232-4500 (Nike SB, Supra, Diamond, Krew, Burton, Rome, Grenade, etc) Out of Bounds MySpace

01-25-2006, 01:37 PM	#2
Black Sunshine AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 22568 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,052	How much are they? <too lazy to go to mikes site> __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Audi exploding on the highway like a slug from a 45. True Death, 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night - this is Black Sunshine" 2002 S4 6MT AWE STG 3 - Still here, but not much longer 1995 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru - Almost here, not much longer

01-25-2006, 01:38 PM	#3
tristateS4 Junior Member Account #: 89733 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 534	Great! makes my job harder! Thinking pss9 or H&R for crappy nyc/nj roads. __________________ 07 GTI

01-25-2006, 01:40 PM	#4
EE:OutofBounds Elder Member Account #: 23890 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,300	damn yer lazy....$1100 same price as Stasis SS __________________ Out of Bounds Rideshop (908) 232-4500 (Nike SB, Supra, Diamond, Krew, Burton, Rome, Grenade, etc) Out of Bounds MySpace

01-25-2006, 01:42 PM	#5
EE:OutofBounds Elder Member Account #: 23890 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,300	i've heard good things about PSS9's...i'd go with those over the H&Rs __________________ Out of Bounds Rideshop (908) 232-4500 (Nike SB, Supra, Diamond, Krew, Burton, Rome, Grenade, etc) Out of Bounds MySpace

01-25-2006, 01:43 PM	#6
Christian (Stage Ow) Member Account #: 67845 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,102	I'm thinking of going PSS9s myself. The Vogtland COs sound awesome, but I like my allroad height. :) __________________ __________ "It's easier to practice medicine without a license in this country than it is to get info on tuning Motronic." -JasonS9

01-25-2006, 01:53 PM	#7
EE:OutofBounds Elder Member Account #: 23890 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,300	edit: they are height adjustable like all coilovers....just not the valving ;) __________________ Out of Bounds Rideshop (908) 232-4500 (Nike SB, Supra, Diamond, Krew, Burton, Rome, Grenade, etc) Out of Bounds MySpace

01-25-2006, 01:54 PM	#8
Ah10@WMS AudiWorld Super User Account #: 9327 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,630	Ah10 was here __________________ WMS: 818-997-6500 ASP:856-772-9500 \|\| ASP Custom Tuned Stage 3 \|\| 710P \|\| Piggie DP \|\| ASP 89mm Truedual \|\| ASP TSB \|\| APR Boost Gauge \|\| RS4 Grille \|\| \|\| AWE Intercooler \|\| C M Stage 4, 6 puck & LWFW \|\| ASP Motor Mount \|\| RS4 Tranny Mount\|\| StaSIS Motorsport Ohlins \|\| \|\| 18" Work W-ITS 901 \|\| 245/35/18 ContiSport3 \|\| Ecode \|\| Modded RS4 Bumper \|\| StaSIS Motorsport Alcon 6pot 355 \|\| WMS Stage III: 3.54 fats on Pump 3.25 fats on Race gas both runs were on pump file 3.06 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File 2.93 on East Coast Pump Gas/Race File in 40f weather

01-25-2006, 01:55 PM	#9
EE:OutofBounds Elder Member Account #: 23890 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,300	lol....yes he was __________________ Out of Bounds Rideshop (908) 232-4500 (Nike SB, Supra, Diamond, Krew, Burton, Rome, Grenade, etc) Out of Bounds MySpace

01-25-2006, 01:56 PM	#10
S4Fish Junior Member Account #: 94628 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,331	thinking about those myself. hope to see you tomorrow night at the meet! __________________ -Sold, but not forgotten- 2001 S4, Brilliant Black GIAC X 710n's Evo Intake Neuspeed G2 Exhaust Samco TBB Neuspeed Short Shifter 19" Flik Justice 235/35/19s Bridgestone Potenza RE750's Intrax Springs/Koni Shocks E-Codes AWE Vent Boost Gauge Vast Snub H7 Hyper White Fogs RS4 Grill with painted black trim "street racing is like jacking off, every guy has done it. the ones who say they havent are lying." -Devious18t the new s4: AKA 2001 Corvette z06

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