Will 3.0L 30v heads bolt right up to our motors? I know the 2.8 heads will..

Captain Matt, I be · 01-21-2006, 09:38 AM

..not sure about the 3.0s though.

Mihnea · 01-21-2006, 09:49 AM

I've looked into it before and it doesn't look very easy, plus I think the intake/exhaust cam timing is variable.

Now if I had a spare set of heads I could play around with them and see if there is a way to get this to work.

Supposedly MTM use 3.0 30v heads on their 602PS conversion for the RS4 (K16/24 hybrid turbos), but I'm finding this pretty hard to believe quite honestly...

HTH,

Mihnea

Dr. Jekyll · 01-21-2006, 09:55 AM

Maybe he can chime in, or you can give him an email.

Captain Matt, I be · 01-21-2006, 09:55 AM

Eric 2.7 · 01-21-2006, 10:56 AM

Mihnea · 01-21-2006, 11:08 AM

Maybe a custom timing belt setup could get this to work but sounds like more hassle than anything else to me....

HTH,

Mihnea

FixedWing · 01-21-2006, 04:09 PM

If you are going to use the 3.0 heads then you should also use the aluminium 3.0 block. That's where the big advantage is as it is much lighter. I *think* it will handle reasonable power.

So then, the next question becomes "will the 3.0 long block mate up with a good intake port and exhaust system?"

I think there is a lot of potential in this route but not sure it is worth being the first to try. As I said, you can get a lighter engine (and we all know the S4 is nose heavy). You also get a 3 litre engine instead of a 2.7. So that should give 11% more power.

I've seen some photos of the bottom end of the 3.0. It looks pretty strong. Not sure it is as strong as the S4 and RS4 blocks. But probably strong enough for any reasonable application.

Stephen

~DonQPremiumTequila~ · 01-21-2006, 09:28 PM

FixedWing · 01-21-2006, 09:40 PM

01-21-2006, 09:38 AM	#1
Captain Matt, I be Elder Member Account #: 26545 Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32,092	Will 3.0L 30v heads bolt right up to our motors? I know the 2.8 heads will.. ..not sure about the 3.0s though. __________________ Support Innovation for the B5 Platform - www.autospeedperformance.com www.vastperformance.com B5 S4 Forum Cliff's Notes B5 S4 RNS-E Nav+ Installation

01-21-2006, 09:49 AM	#2
Mihnea Junior Member Account #: 25793 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,239	The 3.0 30v has separate cam sprockets for intake/exhaust cams I've looked into it before and it doesn't look very easy, plus I think the intake/exhaust cam timing is variable. Now if I had a spare set of heads I could play around with them and see if there is a way to get this to work. Supposedly MTM use 3.0 30v heads on their 602PS conversion for the RS4 (K16/24 hybrid turbos), but I'm finding this pretty hard to believe quite honestly... HTH, Mihnea __________________ RIP O.W. Kenobi 1998 Audi S4 2.7T, Stage 3+ -FMIC, ported/polished/clearanced K04s -custom intake pipes, tubular manifolds -custom dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust -lowered compression -RS4 transmission 511.5 crank HP/505 crank ft/lbs on DynoDynamics (391wHP) 2.8 FATS average on 92.5 octane Status: awaiting patiently stage 4 a.k.a. RS6 turbos and mo' boost.

01-21-2006, 09:55 AM	#3
Dr. Jekyll AudiWorld Super User Account #: 76012 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,722	I know Fixed wing was looking into the 3.0L engine. I'm not sure what he found out about the heads Maybe he can chime in, or you can give him an email. __________________

01-21-2006, 09:55 AM	#4
Captain Matt, I be Elder Member Account #: 26545 Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32,092	i see, thanks! glad i didnt bid :) __________________ Support Innovation for the B5 Platform - www.autospeedperformance.com www.vastperformance.com B5 S4 Forum Cliff's Notes B5 S4 RNS-E Nav+ Installation

01-21-2006, 10:56 AM	#5
Eric 2.7 Member Account #: 61325 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,808	Sun of a gun! it does. I just spent 15 minutes on Bentley marvelling how that puppy works. __________________ Eric 2000 A6 2.7T DIY Mule: Full Timing Belt Replacement, Cam Seals & Cam Tensioner Gaskets, Engine Mounts (TWICE! Thanks Hamburg-Technic/ECS), O2 Sensors, 2ndary Coolant Pump, '03 OEM Sport Suspension, H-Sport Sway Bars, Control Arms, Tie Rod Ends, CV Joint Boots & All Kinds of Maintenance Stuff. Retired: 1996 A4 2.8 2wd 12v 1987 4000CS Quattro 1980 4000 2door (not even an "S")

01-21-2006, 11:08 AM	#6
Mihnea Junior Member Account #: 25793 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,239	That's what I knew from browsing through ETKA... Maybe a custom timing belt setup could get this to work but sounds like more hassle than anything else to me.... HTH, Mihnea __________________ RIP O.W. Kenobi 1998 Audi S4 2.7T, Stage 3+ -FMIC, ported/polished/clearanced K04s -custom intake pipes, tubular manifolds -custom dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust -lowered compression -RS4 transmission 511.5 crank HP/505 crank ft/lbs on DynoDynamics (391wHP) 2.8 FATS average on 92.5 octane Status: awaiting patiently stage 4 a.k.a. RS6 turbos and mo' boost.

01-21-2006, 04:09 PM	#7
FixedWing Senior Member Account #: 66531 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,155	In my opinion... If you are going to use the 3.0 heads then you should also use the aluminium 3.0 block. That's where the big advantage is as it is much lighter. I think it will handle reasonable power. So then, the next question becomes "will the 3.0 long block mate up with a good intake port and exhaust system?" I think there is a lot of potential in this route but not sure it is worth being the first to try. As I said, you can get a lighter engine (and we all know the S4 is nose heavy). You also get a 3 litre engine instead of a 2.7. So that should give 11% more power. I've seen some photos of the bottom end of the 3.0. It looks pretty strong. Not sure it is as strong as the S4 and RS4 blocks. But probably strong enough for any reasonable application. Stephen __________________ ================================================== ======================

01-21-2006, 09:28 PM	#8
~DonQPremiumTequila~ AudiWorld Super User Account #: 68023 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,173	Hmmmm...Sounds like a awesome project for someone very daring! __________________ 01 S4 6-speed stage 3.5 95 S6 avant very stock.. sold 95 90 quattro 5 speed winter car MK3 (L322) Range Rover HSE full size with mods Leader of the Anti Windows mobile militia Blackberry pimp..... NOW WITH the 3G IPHONE :-)

01-21-2006, 09:40 PM	#9
FixedWing Senior Member Account #: 66531 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,155	I agree. __________________ ================================================== ======================

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