ok, let the keyboard tooning begin - from the little I've seen, I'd rather have a K04-based car...

JoeyJoJoeJrShabadoo · 01-11-2006, 09:37 AM

... on a track with turns.

Discuss/flame away.

djillusion · 01-11-2006, 09:41 AM

many of us pieced mods together to get a final stage 3 car. but in the end the money into the project is nearly the same.

but to "upgrade" to the ASP kit is not going to happen for me. i think i will quite happy with K04s. but again if i had a fresh stock S4 to work with it, no question i would go with the ASP kit.

SAC-CA-GTI · 01-11-2006, 09:47 AM

K04's you have to do that. But you know that I'm sure as you lap me on the track!

JoeyJoJoeJrShabadoo · 01-11-2006, 09:51 AM

could make a huge difference!

You going to TH? I'm most likely not going to make it unfortunately...

~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ · 01-11-2006, 09:54 AM

gear selection, rev matching/heel toe shifting, left foot braking, etc... The track presents the element of (to quote a Pirelli ad), "Power is nothing without control". Projekt GT25r2 will be set up with PENSKES, STOPTECH 4 Wheel 6-piston (front) brakes, and already has a Stasis differential. I hope to take it to the track frequently and should be able to round up some talented drivers to help answer your proposed question.

Captain Matt, I be · 01-11-2006, 09:54 AM

believe me though, there is minimal lag in that car for the power it has.

honest question, asking because i have no idea - how often are you under 3k on a track?

~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ · 01-11-2006, 09:57 AM

Christian (Stage Ow) · 01-11-2006, 09:59 AM

~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ · 01-11-2006, 10:02 AM

SAC-CA-GTI · 01-11-2006, 10:06 AM

and I don't know if this works. But a rodent found on this board once told me that by hitting the ESP button does NOT completely shut if off. But if you pull up on the e-brake one click it fools the car into thinking it's not moving, therefore disabling the ESP. Not sure if that's true (or even safe) or not. Never tried it.

01-11-2006, 09:37 AM	#1
JoeyJoJoeJrShabadoo AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,479	ok, let the keyboard tooning begin - from the little I've seen, I'd rather have a K04-based car... ... on a track with turns. Discuss/flame away.

01-11-2006, 09:41 AM	#2
djillusion AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 10,896	if i was starting FRESH with a stock car, i would go ASP. many of us pieced mods together to get a final stage 3 car. but in the end the money into the project is nearly the same. but to "upgrade" to the ASP kit is not going to happen for me. i think i will quite happy with K04s. but again if i had a fresh stock S4 to work with it, no question i would go with the ASP kit. __________________ GO FAST / STOP FAST: KO4s \| ASP Fueling Kit \| AWE DPs + TPs \| AWE Intercoolers \| Miltek Super Dual Exhaust w/ Custom Tips \| 710N BPVs \| Stasis Motorsports \| APR Snub Mount \| UUC SS \| ECS Stage 4 Brakes \| ECS Rear Stage 1 Brakes \| V1 Hardwired \| Achtuning Oil Cooler \| RS4 Clutch \| Re-Surfaced Stock FW \| Samco TBB \| ASP TSB \| LIL SOMETHIN' ELSE: Euro Lights \| Fog Light Mod \| Custom A-Pillar w/ Prosport Boost Gauge \| "S4" Shift Knob / RS4 Alcantara Shift Knob \| Oettinger Front Grill / RS4 Grill \| OEM RS4 Front \| OEM RS4 CF Engine Covers \| Rear M3 Lip Spoiler \| 19x8.5" DCR Catalunyas \| 235.35.19 Bridgestone KDWs \| AL Sideview Mirrors \| 20G Phatbox \| Greddy TT \| RNS-E NAV \| Infinity Basslink \| 35% Tint \| Winter Setup: B6 S4 Avus 18" Wheels w/ 235.40.18 Hancook IceBear Winter Tires \| 255 lph fuel pump \| Zoldman O2 sensors \| OEM RS4 Alcantara Steering Wheel

01-11-2006, 09:47 AM	#3
SAC-CA-GTI Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8,316	Just means you have to adjust accordingly going in and coming out of turns for the lag. Even with K04's you have to do that. But you know that I'm sure as you lap me on the track! __________________

01-11-2006, 09:51 AM	#4
JoeyJoJoeJrShabadoo AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,479	I wonder if Mark disables the brake-throttle cut could make a huge difference! You going to TH? I'm most likely not going to make it unfortunately...

01-11-2006, 09:54 AM	#5
~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ Banned Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,039	A good driver can keep the car in the power band with a number of techniques.... gear selection, rev matching/heel toe shifting, left foot braking, etc... The track presents the element of (to quote a Pirelli ad), "Power is nothing without control". Projekt GT25r2 will be set up with PENSKES, STOPTECH 4 Wheel 6-piston (front) brakes, and already has a Stasis differential. I hope to take it to the track frequently and should be able to round up some talented drivers to help answer your proposed question.

01-11-2006, 09:54 AM	#6
Captain Matt, I be AudiWorld Expert Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32,081	different kits for different people / needs :) believe me though, there is minimal lag in that car for the power it has. honest question, asking because i have no idea - how often are you under 3k on a track? __________________ Support Innovation for the B5 Platform - www.autospeedperformance.com www.vastperformance.com B5 S4 Forum Cliff's Notes B5 S4 RNS-E Nav+ Installation

01-11-2006, 09:57 AM	#7
~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ Banned Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,039	The car is equipped with an EDL delete switch.

01-11-2006, 09:59 AM	#8
Christian (Stage Ow) AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,102	Will that only work on 2000 MY cars without ESP? __________________ __________ "It's easier to practice medicine without a license in this country than it is to get info on tuning Motronic." -JasonS9

01-11-2006, 10:02 AM	#9
~~brian@AutoSpeed-gt25~~ Banned Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,039	Projekt GT25r2 is a 2000 : )

01-11-2006, 10:06 AM	#10
SAC-CA-GTI Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8,316	No T-Hill for me either. How 'bout Laguna? I'll be there. Also... and I don't know if this works. But a rodent found on this board once told me that by hitting the ESP button does NOT completely shut if off. But if you pull up on the e-brake one click it fools the car into thinking it's not moving, therefore disabling the ESP. Not sure if that's true (or even safe) or not. Never tried it. __________________

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