Question: If you make Lemmiwinks adjustments to multi-program software

Godfather | Jay · 01-03-2006, 06:56 PM

(APR, GIAC), do those changes affect all the loaded programs? I STFA, but no luck.

rktskicar · 01-03-2006, 06:59 PM

Ochlockonee · 01-03-2006, 06:59 PM

Godfather | Jay · 01-03-2006, 07:17 PM

s4what? · 01-03-2006, 08:07 PM

Just guessing. I have heard that GIAC switches programs by switching to another, separate chip, so a Lemmi tweak would only work on the active chip. APR and Revo switch programs on a single chip.

Ochlockonee · 01-03-2006, 08:26 PM

Not saying you are wrong, but the chip memory and the adaptation channel memory are stored in different locations. I'm not sure if the adaptation channels are reset to default when the chip is changed.
GIAC 3- software disables the adaptation channels.

s4what? · 01-04-2006, 03:19 PM

So GIAC stage 3 software disables adaptation channels. Is that why homebrews and VAST use KO3 code? I am now wondering if AMS KO4 code also disables the channels.

nt2old4ns4 · 01-04-2006, 04:01 PM

Godfather | Jay · 01-04-2006, 05:41 PM

nt2old4ns4 · 01-05-2006, 06:59 PM

...was loaded. What I want to find out is whether the specific tweaks made to fine tune the APR 100 program may not be the best tweaks for the 91 or 93 programs. If not, then you would have to reapply whatever tweaks you made for the specific program running. This could somewhat limit the flexibility that multi-program chips can provide. Thanks...

01-03-2006, 06:56 PM	#1
Godfather \| Jay AudiWorld Super User Account #: 99226 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,267	Question: If you make Lemmiwinks adjustments to multi-program software (APR, GIAC), do those changes affect all the loaded programs? I STFA, but no luck. __________________ F#% the new format and jacked up, truncated archives. Go to quattr0w0rld... "Sleeper" - a B5 S4 Tribute* "Stages: A Mod Addiction" Piano Black Beltline Trim Install * Clear corner DIY tips ER IC install pics/notes * DIY camera mount My stage 3+ mod list * More vids: 0-60, drag strip, etc

01-03-2006, 06:59 PM	#2
rktskicar AudiWorld Super User Account #: 44443 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,592	Yes. __________________ Stock 010 6MT Blue Sprint B8 S4. Premium +, Sport diff, B&O BBS CH, 255/40/18 Bridgetstone RE960 AS 01.5 6MT ASP Stage 3 S4 (sold 9/25/09)

01-03-2006, 06:59 PM	#3
Ochlockonee Member Account #: 72863 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,953	Yup. __________________ "No, a flux capacitor is not compatible with a ham sandwich."

01-03-2006, 07:17 PM	#4
Godfather \| Jay AudiWorld Super User Account #: 99226 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,267	Makes sense. Interesting... Thanks! __________________ F#% the new format and jacked up, truncated archives. Go to quattr0w0rld... "Sleeper" - a B5 S4 Tribute* "Stages: A Mod Addiction" Piano Black Beltline Trim Install * Clear corner DIY tips ER IC install pics/notes * DIY camera mount My stage 3+ mod list * More vids: 0-60, drag strip, etc

01-03-2006, 08:07 PM	#5
s4what? Member Account #: 30356 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,303	GIAC no, others yes Just guessing. I have heard that GIAC switches programs by switching to another, separate chip, so a Lemmi tweak would only work on the active chip. APR and Revo switch programs on a single chip. __________________ Engine Simulator Dahlback Stage 3, other stuff If you live in the NYC Metro area you NEED aftermarket security - if you don't have it WILL be stolen

01-03-2006, 08:26 PM	#6
Ochlockonee Member Account #: 72863 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,953	Adaptation channels (lemmi tweaks) are built into the Bosch ecu in a different place from the chip. Not saying you are wrong, but the chip memory and the adaptation channel memory are stored in different locations. I'm not sure if the adaptation channels are reset to default when the chip is changed. GIAC 3- software disables the adaptation channels. __________________ "No, a flux capacitor is not compatible with a ham sandwich."

01-04-2006, 03:19 PM	#7
s4what? Member Account #: 30356 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,303	I wondered about that. Thanks. So GIAC stage 3 software disables adaptation channels. Is that why homebrews and VAST use KO3 code? I am now wondering if AMS KO4 code also disables the channels. __________________ Engine Simulator Dahlback Stage 3, other stuff If you live in the NYC Metro area you NEED aftermarket security - if you don't have it WILL be stolen

01-04-2006, 04:01 PM	#8
nt2old4ns4 Junior Member Account #: 65239 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 880	Noob question: Would the tweaks even be the same for, say, APR 91oct vs. 100oct? __________________ 2000 S4 silver/silver, 6sp, premium, cold, Buehn K04/RS6 hybrids, ER intercoolers, ASP fueling, APR Bipipe, Samco F Hose, 710Ns, APR DPs, Milltek Super Dual exhaust, Vast ceramic clutch, Vogtland C/O's, Neuspeed rear anti-sway bar, Toy Guy short shifter

01-04-2006, 05:41 PM	#9
Godfather \| Jay AudiWorld Super User Account #: 99226 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,267	Yes, that's what they're saying. That's what I meant by multi-program... __________________ F#% the new format and jacked up, truncated archives. Go to quattr0w0rld... "Sleeper" - a B5 S4 Tribute* "Stages: A Mod Addiction" Piano Black Beltline Trim Install * Clear corner DIY tips ER IC install pics/notes * DIY camera mount My stage 3+ mod list * More vids: 0-60, drag strip, etc

01-05-2006, 06:59 PM	#10
nt2old4ns4 Junior Member Account #: 65239 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 880	I understand that the tweaks stored in the adaptation channels would affect whatever APR program... ...was loaded. What I want to find out is whether the specific tweaks made to fine tune the APR 100 program may not be the best tweaks for the 91 or 93 programs. If not, then you would have to reapply whatever tweaks you made for the specific program running. This could somewhat limit the flexibility that multi-program chips can provide. Thanks... __________________ 2000 S4 silver/silver, 6sp, premium, cold, Buehn K04/RS6 hybrids, ER intercoolers, ASP fueling, APR Bipipe, Samco F Hose, 710Ns, APR DPs, Milltek Super Dual exhaust, Vast ceramic clutch, Vogtland C/O's, Neuspeed rear anti-sway bar, Toy Guy short shifter

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